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Public sentiment is moving towards impeachment.
The worst president of all time. He is tuning the system of checks and balances
The worst president of all time. He is tuning the system of checks and balances
Public sentiment is moving towards impeachment.
The ones that gave her an 80% chance.Are these the same polls that gave Hillary a 99% chance of winning ?
The answer to that question is covered upcampaign finance violations and obstructed justice.
Before the Nixon impeachment hearings began, it was a very unpopular idea.
The Mueller report has all you needI guess thats where I differ. I don't care what the idea is. If their are facts to support it then I am for it. I haven't seen any.
Ok first off, If you want a good look at what the polls really say about Trump Go here:
RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Trump Job Approval https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html
If your argument comes from someone who clearly is opinionated one way or the other, you are going to get their bias involved in it.
Some interesting things said recently:
There's nearly a Nixon '74 level of public support for impeaching Trump https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/22/politics/impeach-trump-nixon-support-bill-clinton-poll/index.html
I don't believe this for one second. 74 level impeachment interest! Yeah I doubt that seriously.
Opinion | Impeachment and Public Opinion https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/03/opinion/impeachment.html
Um of course his base is not going to budge. Why? Well because in their opinion no proof has been issued. Democrat Opinion vs. Republican Opinion equals 0 proof only opinion.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...es-toward-impeachment/?utm_term=.862bd24bfbd2
I very much dislike stories that utilize only one poll to justify their story.
Steyer: We can't wait for Republicans. Pelosi should launch Trump impeachment process now. https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/03/13/pelosi-democrats-impeach-trump-protect-laws-constitution-tom-steyer-column/3139886002/
IF this isn't politically bias I do not know what is.
Impeachment is not a high priority for voters, recent polls show https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2019/01/03/impeachment-is-not-a-high-priority-for-voters-recent-polls-show/
See and then the opposite side of the scale. So which story is right?
Why Democrats should resist impeachment https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chapman/ct-perspec-chapman-impeachment-trump-pelosi-warren-mueller-report-20190423-story.html
Even the Liberal news paper while they hope for enough public outrage to Impeach Trump, but suggests they shy away until there is enough to support it. But he failed to say evidence. Public opinion and outrage not evidence.
So what is the standard needed for Impeachment of President Trump?
The charge of high crimes and misdemeanors covers allegations of misconduct by officials, such as perjury of oath, abuse of authority, bribery, intimidation, misuse of assets, failure to supervise, dereliction of duty, unbecoming conduct, refusal to obey a lawful order, chronic intoxication, and tax evasion.
So I ask you all that are debating this. Remove your bias, remove your opinion and remove your party affiliation and think about it, What has President Trump done that provides a means to impeach him?
To be Honest the U.S. Government hasn't been Of, By, or For the people in quite some time. Sure the U.S. Government does provide some benefit to the people living in its borders, but the Government has been about the people who are elected to run it and their beneficiaries much like a Monarchy. That said, I agree with you that Congress has given many of its duties over to the executive branch which I holy disagree with.High crimes and misdemeanors is commonly misconstrued to mean a serious crime or an indictable offense. That's not at all what the Founder's intended, and their debate on this issue is found in numerous historical records. A "high" crime simply means that one must be an official and have committed an act that violates the oath of their office, brings disrepute onto their office, engaged in unethical behavior, breached the public trust, or somehow injured society through misbehavior or by undermining the standards of law, morality, and/or the Constitution.
High crimes and misdemeanors don't require a statutory offense to have been committed or an indictable criminal act to have occurred. But, without question, obstructing justice, suborning perjury, and abusing the power of one's office are absolutely criminal offenses. But the Founder's never intended nor wanted for impeachment to require an officeholder to have committed an actual crime or there be evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. Those are criminal standards for ordinary people, and the Founders believed that the standards of behavior, morality, and ethics for an officeholder should be SIGNIFICANTLY higher than those standards that exist for an ordinary person. In fact, one thing they all agreed upon, was that if a President lied to or mislead the public (unless it pertained to strategic needs in war-time) it would be considered a perjury of their oath and an abuse of the power of their office, and such behavior unquestionably merited impeachment.
If anything, our overall history of impeachment, especially in modern times, has been significantly less aggressive and more deferential to officials in power than the Founders ever intended. Remember, they didn't want a King - - they wanted a government of the people, by the people, and for the people.
So, not only is there a preponderance of evidence that Trump has committed criminal acts while in office (which was actually the standard the Founders intimated they wanted for impeachment...not beyond a reasonable doubt), but he has clearly lied to the public and perjured his oath in addition to numerous other abuses of power. The Founders believed that "high crimes and misdemeanors" meant offenses that are a "crime" and misdemeanor when committed by a federal official/officeholder but wouldn't be if done by an average citizen.
Our modern system has bastardized impeachment to mean a standard well above that that would be applied to an ordinary person. Congress has allowed the Executive branch to become a monolithic and almost unequaled branch of government answerable to no one. It's well past time for that to be corrected, and the current Congress cannot sit back and wring their hands that prior Congresses shirked their Constitutional duties and that out system of government has evolved. The Constitution was meant to be a document that withstood the test of time, and the current authority that the Executive branch has obtained is unquestionably not what the Founders intended or envisioned. Trump is but the most recent example of an out of control Executive branch, but is just so happens that his actions and behaviors are so egregious that they merit an intervention rarely contemplated in modern American history. He should be impeached, convicted, and removed from office. The evidence available is CONSIDERABLY more than sufficient to provide for this remedy.