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This Rogue White House Senior Adviser twitter account is a must follow.

I'm beginning to think it is legit. He was all over this Flynn news a day ahead of time. The scary thing is if it is fake it is believable.
 
Mike S said:
This Rogue White House Senior Adviser twitter account is a must follow.

I'm beginning to think it is legit. He was all over this Flynn news a day ahead of time. The scary thing is if it is fake it is believable.
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I've read some speculation that these accounts could be Russian in origin or that Steve Bannon could be doing this to put out misinformation. LOL. Sometimes ya gotta laugh instead of cry. There's really no way to know what is going on in the White House. I've thought from the beginning that the Republicans will try to take out the Donald and put Pence or Ryan in the Presidency, although by doing so they will alienate many hardcore Trump supporters. They have to be extremely careful in how they execute it.
 
David in SW Blount said:
Our Dear Leader is live right now with another Twitter rampage. He's essentially ADMITTING that the "failing New York Times" is receiving intelligence information leaks. Isn't that essentially a confirmation of their TRUTH?? You just can't make this stuff up.
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I believe the same NY Times reporter breaking this story is he one that broke the Clinton email story as well. It doesn't get more fair than that.
 
It's pathetic to see him try and shift the narrative to Obama & Clinton in two of those tweets as well. Sad.
 
KoD said:
It's pathetic to see him try and shift the narrative to Obama & Clinton in two of those tweets as well. Sad.
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I don't care for Trump but after 8 years of "Blame Bush" I don't see a problem with a Blame Obama strategy.
 
Mike S said:
I don't care for Trump but after 8 years of "Blame Bush" I don't see a problem with a Blame Obama strategy.
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Maybe on domestic issues that Obama had a say in, but blaming Obama for the Russian take over of Crimea is not comparable.
 
KoD said:
Maybe on domestic issues that Obama had a say in, but blaming Obama for the Russian take over of Crimea is not comparable.
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Obama's weak-kneed foreign policy -- especially his attempts at a Russian reset and then later appeasement of Putin (before getting serious way too late) did allow Crimea to happen.

We are the world's only superpower. Russia's taking of Crimea and their invasion of Eastern Ukraine in Donetsk and other areas wasn't something that Russia decided to do overnight. Putin tested Obama on quite a few different issues and in different areas before slowly building a plan to invade and steal territory. Just like how Putin is now testing Trump (intermediate missile launches), he tested Obama to see where his line in the sand actually was. After Obama's Syria red-line failure, Putin knew he could pretty much do what he wanted without much in the way of serious consequence (read: militarily).

But, to your early point, yes it is ridiculous to see many people engage in Whataboutism. Trump is measured against Obama in all things, or disparate situations are muddled or exaggerated to somehow draw a comparison to Obama. Obama was a mediocre at best President (I'm being very generous), and his prior actions and policies do have consequence, but the blame Obama for X, Y, Z crowd is rarely, if ever, laying out a defined rationale for why event X is a consequence of Obama admin policy (as I did with Ukraine).

Obama has plenty of blame, but the way to address that is simply as a reminder to the American people about why we are in a particular circumstance, position, or place. And, the GOP leadership/Trump should use it only as hindsight to say this is how we got here, but the buck stops with us, and here is our plan to fix it. But, of course, I'd be more mentally unbalanced than Donald Trump if I actually believed that will happen. Much easier for them to just to keep shanking Obama whether he deserves it or not.
 
Mike S said:
I don't care for Trump but after 8 years of "Blame Bush" I don't see a problem with a Blame Obama strategy.
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Because the tit-for-tat partisanship has to stop at some point or we will never get out of this.

The GOP and Trump can blame Obama as much as they want, but do it on issues where he was actually at fault, lay out a clear-eyed case for why, and then take responsibility for the situation moving forward.

But who am I kidding? DONALD TRUMP is our President, and he's been a whiny blamer his entire life. But Congress and others could at least set an example. There are heaps of blame to be ladled onto Obama, but that should be done only when deserved and should be supportable by the facts. Arguments about how Trump killing that hooker back in 86 doesn't matter because it was really Obama's fault because he is a Muslim only matter to partisans, and rational onlookers recoil at the lunacy of such logic.
 
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Mike S said:
It was a tongue in cheek comment
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I have no sarcasm meter anymore. :( Trump is such a raving lunatic (he's clearly mentally ill) that I can't even joke anymore. Not even black humor.

But fair or not, Obama did spend a good portion of his first 4-5 years blaming the Bush administration for much of what he failed at. So, the blame my predecessor approach does have precedent. That's for sure.

Trump's press conference today? To borrow a Trumpism: "well, that was another beauty."
 
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