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2025 Political Thread

Bit of a bump in <speculation> what still looks to me like an ongoing small-"F" fascist soft coup -- Business Plot 2.0, so to speak, this time with the figurehead already on board with the whole idea and working hard. </speculation>

Per Reuters:

Aug 11 (Reuters) - Troops were used to protect federal property and personnel in California in recent months even though intelligence assessments showed little danger, two military officials testified on Monday at a landmark trial over President Donald Trump's authority to use soldiers to police American streets.

The three-day non-jury trial before San Francisco-based U.S. District Judge Charles Breyer will determine whether the government violated a 19th-century law that bars the military from civil law enforcement when Trump deployed the troops in June, as the state of California claims in its legal challenge.

...

The trial kicked off hours after Trump said he was taking the extraordinary step of deploying National Guard troops to fight crime in Washington and suggested he could take similar measures in other U.S. cities.

Much of Monday's testimony came from U.S. Army Major General Scott Sherman, who until recently commanded the military operations in Los Angeles.
Under questioning from a lawyer for California, he testified about an internal military intelligence assessment that concluded there would be little risk to federal property and personnel during a July 7 immigration enforcement operation at a Los Angeles park...
 
Meanwhile, in the wallet...inflation reportedly looms as costs to produce things rise. (Tariff effects also are expected but haven't hit yet.)

And:

...With the July report, the BLS ended the calculation and publication of approximately 350 indexes, including data from the PPI Final Demand-Intermediate Demand, special index, industry and commodity classifications.

The agency has suffered years of underfunding under both Republican and Democratic administrations, a situation worsened by an unprecedented campaign by President Donald Trump's White House to remake the federal government through deep spending cuts and mass layoffs of public workers.

The resource constraints have impacted the closely watched employment report and also resulted in the suspension of data collection for portions of the CPI basket in some areas across the country. This has raised concerns about the quality of the government-produced economic data, long viewed as the gold standard. The nomination of Heritage Foundation economist E.J. Antoni, a critic of the BLS, to head the statistics agency, is also adding another layer of worry over data quality...

-- Source
 
Interested too see what comes out of the Putin and trump meeting today. Hopefully if a deal is reached it doesn't heavily favor Russia.
 
Well, this is unexpected:

  • Summary
  • Trump says Putin told him vote-by-mail is risky
  • US president pushing Republicans for election reforms
  • Independent analysts say US voter fraud is rare
WASHINGTON, Aug 15 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said on Friday his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin agrees with him that letting voters send in ballots by mail puts honest elections at risk.

"Vladimir Putin, smart guy, said you can't have an honest election with mail-in voting," Trump told Fox News Channel's "Hannity" after a nearly three-hour meeting between the leaders in Alaska. "He said there's not a country in the world that uses it now."...

Julia Navalny was unavailable for comment.

(The widow Navalny has been declared an enemy of the state and her brother had his face rearranged by a bunch of Putin thugs with hammers while saying something awesome: paraphrased, "You are making schnitzel out of me.")

Hands off my ballot, you two smart guys, however it is delivered.

It's horribly cynical and I don't declare it as fact, but this makes me wonder if the meeting was just intended to give Trump an opportunity to look presidential after six horrible months that have validated the so-called "Never Trumpers" beyond measure.

I have a Shutterstock license for this image of the Navalny's by Gregory Stein:

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Yes, he requested that theme be played at his funeral.
 
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So. There was no deal on Friday because the two participants were in basic agreement: Might makes Right.

...Trump said on Friday that Ukraine should make a deal to end the war with Russia because "Russia is a very big power, and they're not"...

-- Reuters


Now Zelensky and a posse -- the European Union -- are converging on Washington to remind the world that Right is worth standing up for.

They are correct, not only for reasons of national self-interest but also because it is a better principle.

<Rant>

We didn't use to need such reminders, but we deserve them now. And it's been a long time coming...ever since we and others publicly declared the death of God several decades ago (which probably brought a tear to His eye). (Note: No agenda, since I'm a devout Theravada Buddhist; no conflict, either, when saying that Christians are right.)

I'm old enough to remember those times and how my elders said that all such talk would just let the godless Commies win the Cold War. We laughed at their superstition and elected Reagan and Company, and things just got more and more materialistic, prideful, soulless, hypocritical, drug-fueled, and -- for a few -- profitable.

We. This is on me and my generation.

It has been sticking in my craw for a while now that, after the USSR went down, our businesspeople went into Russia to spread the happy democratic message of capitalism but instead have ended up becoming heartless, material-obsessed, vicious power players like the "Commies" in control over there.

And I think a powerful minority of OUR business types want to exercise such control here now.

Chesterton's Outline of Sanity helped me a bit because he shows that there really isn't much difference between the goals of modern capitalism and socialism/communism. Both concentrate power, money, and resources in a few hands and use them as a club on the rest of us.

And now something good is happening. Europe's standing by the Ukraine has reminded me of their basic principle: Christianity, as a tradition anyway. They were united in it for much longer than the EU has been around, and the influences of that are still strong, despite the many human frailties in evidence there today.

  • The powerful should not abuse the weak.
  • Excess of anything is not healthy
  • Thou shalt not steal land and lives, any more than other possessions.
  • Don't hate. Try to love your neighbor as you do yourself. If that's too hard at first, simply realize that others exist just as much as you do: no more, no less.
  • Vows also matter, and breaking them has consequences.
  • In fact, everything we say, think, or do has consequences: good, for right things; bad, for evil things. (The opening scene of Dante's Peak references the real Dante's description of wishy-washy people's fate in The Inferno.)
  • Individuals matter because each us is where the battle between Good and Evil takes place ..all the time. And it's no game. Individual freedom to speak of insights gained in this struggle benefits us all; suppression of publication about such insights and their fruits is wrong; freedom of assembly to worship, participate in governance, &c., is right; and so on.
  • Pride goes before a fall.
  • Live.
  • And so forth.
Everyone still knows such things are good, but they don't acknowledge the source of Good any more. To really do so would mean to accept the responsibilities that come with God's great gift (I'm staying within the traditional framework here).

Hey man, we ditched those forever when God died in the 1960s. Now it's fun and games for all the fittest survivors forever.

And things get drearier and sadder, to the point where the US is starting to feel a bit like Moscow during Soviet times, in winter, but we dare not even think about admitting the failure of that ancient little social experiment.

With nothing Good to stand for, we've ended up standing for anything, to paraphrase MLK, Jr., I think.

Europe is a fellow traveler along that slouching road, but the momentum of its great tradition is strong and, I think, is helping to bring them to Washington with Zelensky this week, along with the obvious secular self-interest and war experience.

They are doing the right thing.

It is wrong, as well as stupid (in light of the Hitler precedent) to let a powerful country get away with invading and stealing land from one less powerful.

Of course, we have a religious tradition, too, but not a similar centuries-long momentum to carry us along as Europe does. Do we still dare to stand up for Right against Might?

I think we do and that this is why Trump brushed off questions after Friday's conference, since he couldn't admit to the power-play game planning that presumably went on.

But how much abuse are we Americans still willing to trade for a pretty glowing screen and a relatively hassle-free personal existence in the short term?

We've already traded away so much over the past six decades. And now there are generations who don't even know it.

I'm worried that the godless Commies might be close to winning, after all.
</rant>
 
...such was the scale of President Trump's change of strategy after meeting President Putin – and the consequent potential threat to Europe – that the European leaders changed their plans fast.

-- Source

The C-word is not too strong here.

Capitulation to Russia: Mr. Trump has a very strange vision of US greatness (not MAGA rank and file, and their supporters, though: good people for the most part who, down through the decades under various banners, have peacefully stood for more than I could and who instead have worked for change in many ways -- they changed my stance on abortion, for example, many MANY years ago. It's not their fault that they projected their vision onto an unworthy candidate).
 
Capitulation to Russia: Mr. Trump has a very strange vision of US greatness

I take that back, after reading follow-up news stories about yesterday's conference and applying some personal experience (though I stand by what I said about the wonderful MAGA people).

There is the impression that Mr. Trump has been, uh, flexible -- going along with Putin in Alaska and then being supportive of Ukraine security (verbally and in the moment anyway) yesterday.

And he didn't know that the Finnish leader was sitting right across the table from him.

I've just realized that old people like us do that (for the record, I'm seven years younger, still athletic to a surprising degree, feisty, with it, and of course much better looking ;) ).

We tend to focus on the moment rather than taking in the whole picture and rapidly processing it for action in terms of past experiences and future goals, as we routinely did as young and middle-aged adults.

That loss of perspective is not pathological but just a normal part of ageing: those fifty years since your 20s weigh a lot regardless of their content of good or bad experiences. As for the future -- well, after grappling with the sudden realization of your own mortality (about a decade or so ago for me), you learn to just take one day at a time.

This isn't about me, though. I have just realized that the POTUS seems to be doing this "in the moment" thing, too, first with Putin and then with Zelensky and the Posse yesterday.

If I'm right, that's not good for us, Europe, or the world.

All those leaders probably know it but can't say anything. Putin must know it, since he seems quite manipulative of The Don at times.

It's on us, the People, because of our system of government. Our country's international friends likely are waiting for the American public to recognize the issue and handle it. And they probably have their fingers crossed that nothing bad happens before the 2026 and 2028 elections come round.

But instead of encouraging public compassion and respectful firmness in such matters, we get shots like the mail-in vote thing/militarization of police/DC takeover/etc. thrown at us to keep us off balance, angry and divided.

And, barring some undeniable goof, as happened with Biden in the relatively consequence-free setting of an election debate -- look how fast the president covered his Finnish recognition failure yesterday -- what US politician, business leader, member of the Fourth Estate, religious leader, or influential celebrity dares to say "Trump is too old"? No one dared say it about Biden, either, until he was out of office.

Apparently, like corruption, the subtractions brought about by old age may only be reported in the past tense.

But the stakes are so high right now.

Perhaps all we can do is pray for guidance, mercy, courage, and strength.

And a happy ending -- I like those! :)
 
Trump is such absolute garbage on literally every single possible front.

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He's complaining about the Smithsonian showing how bad slavery was. SLAVERY. Think about that for a minute.
 
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"Can we do better?" -- A. Lincoln, 1862.

Still a valid question today, on all fronts.
 
Meanwhile, at the post office ..

...Iceland Post has decided to suspend shipments of goods to the United States due to changes ordered, at short notice, by U.S. authorities regarding customs duties.

Many other European postal operators have also chosen to halt goods shipments to the USA because of these changes, including PostNord and Austrian Post...


-- Source

Letters, documents, and gifts between individuals valued at less than $100 can still get through.

Edit: The AP has some background, including this:

...The U.S. duty-free exemption for goods originating from China ended in May as part of the Trump administration’s efforts to curb American shoppers from ordering low-value Chinese goods. The exemption is being extended to shipments from around the world...

Bargain shopping is now just for the rich, apparently.
 
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Sorry. I should have shrugged it off, along with the rest of the shock news. The really important thing is Trump's apparent senescence in the Russia summit and the meeting with Zelensky and the European leaders.

Good news is that the Free World, without a real leader any more in anything but name, is still doing the right thing by Ukraine, though you have to dig a little bit to get that news.

And meanwhile, headlines fly fast and furious to distract the US public from Trump's big fail. When I think of how those same media crucified LBJ and W Bush for lesser things and nothing, respectively, I realize where that sudden shock of recognition came from as I sought news from Pravda and Tass about erupting Kamchatka volcanoes after the big quake.

It's all the billionaires' poodle now. But not forever -- human history tells us that. And our country's institutions will be 300 years young in a little while...there is hope here, a lot of it.

But first we've got to clear out our heads of a lot of delusion and laziness, and that's not going to be easy, without a religion to stand on, in a time of heavily massaging and messaging media and us so readily open to it all through that attractive glowing screen.
 
The shooter at a Catholic Church and School in Minneapolis earlier today has been identified as transgender; I can already see this being used as a way to attack the trans community like in that March 2023 shooting (was near Nashville only a few days after that happened).

More politically, though, “Kill Trump” was on one of her rifles in a now-deleted video. Going to probably be a major republican talking point and possibly a way to justify the National guard deployments (although the fact that there are people with that mindset who are actively committing horrible acts of violence is concerning).

RIP to both killed, by the way. Sometimes I still can’t believe we live amongst absolutely deplorable human beings like the shooter. Please feel free to remove if this doesn’t fit the thread; I rarely go on this thread as it’s usually a cesspool.
 
Well... another day, another mass shooting.

Before politicians inevitably use this horrible tragedy to push more gun control legislation, let me explain the paradox:
  • Most street criminals acquired their firearms illegally, which should come as no surprise. 56% were through completely illegal channels (stolen, found at a crime scene, or an underground market). 25% were obtained from individuals, likely a mix of legal transfers and illegal straw purchases. Only 7% legally purchased their firearms from a licensed dealer.
  • Mass shootings, while highly publicized, account for less than 1% of all US gun deaths. HOWEVER, most mass shooters acquired their firearms legally, including the recent Minneapolis shooter.
  • Another tidbit: 99% of crime guns were legally acquired by their original owner, but changed hands and entered the illegal system through various means. About 20% by legal private sales. We unfortunately don't have precise data for the other 80%, but straw purchases, organized crime, corrupt FFLs, and theft (from individuals, dealers and shippers) likely play a role.
So... clearly the issue of gun violence is FAR more complex than "We need to ban guns to stop mass shooters!!".

-the US was founded as the result of a violent revolt against government overreach.
-in the aftermath of the American Revolution, firearms quickly became a symbol of protection and resistance against said government overreach and tyranny.
-because firearms became so cherished so quickly, it opened the door to the US being the only country on Earth with more firearms than people!

And the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms is also very unique, with only the Czech Republic, Guatemala and a few other countries in the world recognizing gun ownership as a right, not just a privilege.

And, ironically, the very gun control laws that Democrats like Newsom champion as "common sense gun safety" often discriminate against the very people they're supposed to protect. It's no secret that Black Americans, especially those in low income areas, are disproportionately affected by gun violence. Yet in places like California, the process to get a CCW so one can legally carry a concealed handgun is incredibly lengthy and expensive, pricing working class Americans out of the constitutional right to defend themselves. And as already mentioned, most street criminals in these areas did NOT acquire their firearms legally. As for the rich, they aren't affected by bureaucratic CCW hurdles because they can afford the taxes, fees, time off work to attend mandatory training classes, and other BS.

So yes, I'm pro 2A. And will always be proud of it. TL;DR? Too bad, read it.
 
The shooter at a Catholic Church and School in Minneapolis earlier today has been identified as transgender; I can already see this being used as a way to attack the trans community like in that March 2023 shooting (was near Nashville only a few days after that happened).

We're only allowed to attack entire communities if they're Caucasian Trump supporters, otherwise "This isn't indicative of the entire community, and you are a terrible person for saying as much"

These days, tragedies are seen as opportunities to pontificate on social media.
 
We're only allowed to attack entire communities if they're Caucasian Trump supporters, otherwise "This isn't indicative of the entire community, and you are a terrible person for saying as much"
Just as all republican/Trump supporters shouldn't be generalized into a single group, neither should all transgender people. The whole "radicalization" thing is (in this case, from what I've seen out of videos she's posted) directly inspired by the horrific events of Columbine, not because she was transgender. Just as how J6 was not all Trump supporters but (largely, there were all sorts of weird political groups and factions there) a group of radicalists, white supremacists and racists.

Every time something like this happens and the shooter is someone who is not cisgender or heterosexual people are quick to blame already-marginalized groups, which is incredibly harmful to those groups.

I am also reminded of that one news title that The Onion always puts out after shooting tragedies - 'No Way to Prevent This,' Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens. I don't think guns are the biggest issue in the country that lead to these events (you don't take away a toy from a crying toddler, you make it feel better) - mental health is.
 
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Ending de minimis for international mail and forcing consumers to pay flat tariffs of $80-200 PER PARCEL should DEFINITELY help bring prices down for everyday Americans who are already struggling in this economy!

Wait, you don't think people should be forced to pay an $80 tariff on a $20 item just to get it through customs? How un-American!

"Oh, but it's temporary." Yeah, but WHY IS IT THERE?? The de minimis exemption allowing parcels valued under $800 to enter the US duty free was FINE TO BEGIN WITH! I guess I could see an argument regarding certain Chinese products, but imposing this crap for ALL countries? Why?

"Oh, but it's a matter of national security." Yeah, you know a politician has run out of excuses to justify a law when they resort to the old and tired "it's to keep you safe" trope.

Clearly the GOP couldn't give a rat's @ss about truly making life more affordable in this economy... but surely the Democrats do, right? Nope, not even close. Democrats like Newsom and Pritzker are too busy raising taxes on everything else including fuel, rentals, firearms and telecommunications. And now Cali lawmakers have their sights more focused on gender identity and banning Glocks!

I've never been more glad to identify as a centrist/libertarian.
 
Just as all republican/Trump supporters shouldn't be generalized into a single group, neither should all transgender people.

Or anyone else. But it's taken me a long time to realize that there is a cure: that religion is not the opiate of the masses, but rather, it's the only way to really see others as you see yourself.

And to feel their pain as your own.



That's when the message "Do not kill, steal, etc." really starts to sink in.

(Disclosure: I was a McCain supporter, but I've been wrong before, too. ;) )
 
So are we planning on just sending a bunch of warships off the coast of Venezuela to just scare them? Noticed the hill posted a publication on overthrowing maduro, I'm guessing maybe they'll target boats that are trafficking drugs. Somebody I'm close to is Venezuelan and we've been talking a lot about this.
 
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