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Severe WX April 1-2 (overnight) Severe Weather Event

AJS said:
Any updates from the Slayden area? Been relatively quiet from that particular area. Surprising because it sure looked like the tornado made a direct hit on the town.
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Lots of trees and powerlines down, and homes damaged from what I hear. Truthfully, probably won't hear much from down there until the roads are cleared.
 
One of the takeaways I got from last night (at least up here in Northern Indiana), is how unfathomably outdated the County EMA and school/college/university tornado safety plans are. The University of Notre Dame in South Bend IN as well as my college in Koskiusko County had to take shelter for a Tornado Warning that was in effect for parts of the *county* and not for the actual campus themself. Last time I checked county based warnings ended almost 18 years ago in October of 2007. In the year of our lord 2025, where our technology even in the weather industry is as advanced as it's ever been, we should not be sounding the sirens for an entire county whenever a Tornado Warning is issued, as well as having everyone and their mother on a college/university, K-12 campus, or businesses and churches take cover whenever parts of the county (not including you) is under a warning.

It was maddening to me to hear how people at my college got anxiety because they thought they were under a Tornado Warning when they actually weren't, also due to the sirens sounding.

EMA's have to do better. Colleges, schools, businesses and churches have to do better. It's 2025, not 2007 anymore.
 
tornado examiner said:
Why does the United States. The country with the most of the most common natural disaster.
Have such crappy construction standards across the board?

Oh right…
Money.
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This is a really interesting video on the topic. Short answer, insurance. It's cheaper to build with crappy quality and have insurance, than a much stronger anchored or concrete home even without insurance.



edit: and there's like a 1 in 4 million chance of a home being hit by a tornado in any given year.
 
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So far, based on the videos I have seen that have provided a visual of the damage, I can confident say that both the Selmar, TN tornado and the Lake City/Monette, AR tornado we’re at least EF4 intensity.

I don’t know who said they believed the Selmar, TN tornado was EF5 worthy, but based on the videos I have seen, it appeared highly unlikely.
 
Kds86z said:
View attachment 38954:( Hope he pulls through…
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Man, I dunno what else we can do to convince people not to shelter under things like carports, pavilions and other flimsy structures. I mean, we still have people going under overpasses all the time, and that myth got debunked, what, over 20 years ago? Feels like such an uphill battle.
 
Clancy said:
Man, I dunno what else we can do to convince people not to shelter under things like carports, pavilions and other flimsy structures. I mean, we still have people going under overpasses all the time, and that myth got debunked, what, over 20 years ago? Feels like such an uphill battle.
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So true and so sad @Clancy . Saw people under an overpass on Ryan’s stream last night during a warning and he is like
.. SMH
 
Western_KS_Wx said:
Figured I’d share this here as well, this is what remains of a Dodge Ram 1500 that was reportedly thrown a mile into a field just outside Lake City, Arkansas. Just extreme damage.
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Menacing ground scouring too is what it looks like. I am not trying to hypothesize anything, but I wouldn’t be surprised if we haven’t even seen all of the damage from this tornado yet.
 
Kds86z said:
So true and so sad @Clancy . Saw people under an overpass on Ryan’s stream last night during a warning and he is like
.. SMH
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I mean, I get it, I'm not going to know the newest information on fence gate technology because I'm not paying attention the Global Journal of Fence Gates, but we blast these instructions on the news and emphasize it constantly. I dunno if it's just one of those things where some people's instincts go out the window when under stress or if we're really just not getting through to some folks. We already have additional challenges like language and technological barriers, but it's very clear some people are hearing the message and still not listening. And that doesn't even touch on the Southern Dad instinct to go out on the porch and look at the clouds while sirens are blaring.
 
AJS said:
Menacing ground scouring too is what it looks like. I am not trying to hypothesize anything, but I wouldn’t be surprised if we haven’t even seen all of the damage from this tornado yet.
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Right, it was fairly long-tracked so the area that’s receiving the most attention is only a fraction of the damage path. That area of Arkansas is very rural for the most part, however. I don’t think we’ve seen anywhere close to the full extent of this outbreak yet, still areas that haven’t been covered by the media that sustained significant hits.
 
Western_KS_Wx said:
Right, it was fairly long-tracked so the area that’s receiving the most attention is only a fraction of the damage path. That area of Arkansas is very rural for the most part, however. I don’t think we’ve seen anywhere close to the full extent of this outbreak yet, still areas that haven’t been covered by the media that sustained significant hits.
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100% agreed. I can say with certainty though that the contextual damage shown so far easily points to an EF4.
 
AJS said:
@Clancy how is tomorrow looking? Some of the parameters I checked for that one area in Arkansas looked pretty extreme.
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I've only looked some, but it definitely has potential to be concerning. I'll direct you to this post by @wx_guy in the ongoing event thread as a good starting point.
 
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