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Hurricane Hurricane Milton

TornadoFan17 said:
The public communication aspect is really important to me. I am getting a communications minor on my way to completion of my meteorology degree. I completely understand and agree that with the public you are "damned if you do, damned if you don't," but I'd love to figure out a better way to streamline real time tracking updates to the general public. I'm just unsure of a better way to do it currently.

It will never be perfect. Nobody will ever be 100% happy. I think the NHC did a great job with this event.
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Agree. I want as many people to be safe as possible, and we should never stop working to improve the ways we can help folks accomplish this task. We can accomplish amazing things when we work together, and I have faith that our public communications will continue to evolve with time.
 
atrainguy said:
Houses (or at least newer ones) are built extra durable in hurricane-prone areas, correct? If so, maybe that lessened the severity of destruction from the tornadoes. We'll see though, maybe we're still in a "fog of war" situation and the true destruction will be revealed soon.
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That's definitely a (potential) silver lining: Florida's building codes are among the strictest in the country. I think most of the tornadic activity occurred in what's classified as a wind-borne debris region, which is only a slight step down from the High-Velocity Hurricane Zone around Miami. I hate to see the destruction and apparent fatalities (were they confirmed?), but I'm also really curious to see what impact the presumably higher construction standards may have had. Not very often you get seemingly strong/violent tornadoes actually impacting those near-mythical homes of "superior construction."
 
atrainguy said:
Houses (or at least newer ones) are built extra durable in hurricane-prone areas, correct? If so, maybe that lessened the severity of destruction from the tornadoes. We'll see though, maybe we're still in a "fog of war" situation and the true destruction will be revealed soon.
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Yes, the newer codes there now follow the older Miami-Dade code upgrade made after Andrew. Not much more can be done to strengthen wood framed homes than this and again IIRC they'd have a structural 135MPH wind-load rating.
 
tornado examiner said:
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Behold…the strangest 140mph EF3 damage all year long. Yes this is an EF3 Di on the d.a.t in Florida. First one confirmed.
These are all upper bound construction homes. They were also brand spanking new.
R.i.p first EF3 confirmed
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Courtesy of Florida's new codes with strict inspection and enforcement of the same. It did mighty well for 140MPH, didn't it? Similar should be done in 'Tornado Alley" areas, but that ain't happening yet.
 
Sawmaster said:
Courtesy of Florida's new codes with strict inspection and enforcement of the same. It did mighty well for 140MPH, didn't it? Similar should be done in 'Tornado Alley" areas, but that ain't happening yet.
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And what's frustrating is that most of what's required to comply with that kind of code isn't even that expensive. IIRC the updated FBC added like.. $1.50/sq ft. or something to construction costs? Heck of a lot cheaper than rebuilding your house (or worse) after it's demolished by a storm it could've potentially withstood if built properly.
 
locomusic01 said:
And what's frustrating is that most of what's required to comply with that kind of code isn't even that expensive. IIRC the updated FBC added like.. $1.50/sq ft. or something to construction costs? Heck of a lot cheaper than rebuilding your house (or worse) after it's demolished by a storm it could've potentially withstood if built properly.
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Than all it would cost is some repairs…
 
Clancy said:
Yikes, that's some seriously bad stuff. Definitely the worst I've seen so far from the west coast.
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Everything about Milton with the exception of track really reminds me of the storms back in the early 2000s and 1990s where they peak out in the middle of the gulf as absolute monsters and then weaken down to the “classic cat3 halfacane” with 95% of the damage being surge.
 
locomusic01 said:
And what's frustrating is that most of what's required to comply with that kind of code isn't even that expensive. IIRC the updated FBC added like.. $1.50/sq ft. or something to construction costs? Heck of a lot cheaper than rebuilding your house (or worse) after it's demolished by a storm it could've potentially withstood if built properly.
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Cheaper than being rebuilt several times, since most parts of Florida will experience hurricanes or strong tropical storms at least 3+ times in the lifespan of the house. Attrition of older weaker homes won't happen fast enough to make a difference soon, so something needs to change for sure. And the best way to deal with any problem is to not have it.
 
Here’s some more from the substorm.
 

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