Severe WX Historic April 27-May 1 2024 Midwest Storms

[atrainguy]

 

[atrainguy]

 

[TornadoFan]

Very strong rotation north of Turkey, TX

 

[cincywx]

* At 539 PM CDT, a confirmed tornado was located 17 miles southeast
of Spearman, moving east at 25 mph.

HAZARD...Damaging tornado and hail up to two inches in diameter.

SOURCE...Live storm chaser video confirmed tornado.

 

[warneagle]

Still really impressive on radar. Thankfully looks like it’s basically in the middle of nowhere.

 

[cincywx]

...A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 600 PM CDT FOR WEST
CENTRAL HALL AND EAST CENTRAL BRISCOE COUNTIES...

At 548 PM CDT, a confirmed tornado was located 7 miles northeast of
Caprock Canyon State Park, and is nearly stationary.

HAZARD...Damaging tornado and ping pong ball size hail.

SOURCE...Emergency management confirmed a brief tornado touchdown. A
tornado was reported at 5:46 PM CDT 7 miles north of Turkey.

storm further to the south

 

[TornadoFan]

The Perryton storm is really trying, but just can't quite do it.

 

[Tomcats Forever!]

So, it seems the worst damage Norman could find for the Hollister tornado was "high end EF-1".

So just what made the radar go nuts like that? Feedback?

 

[jiharris0220]

Nope, those winds simply didn’t reach the ground. Just like with the El-Reno tornado in 2013, they couldn’t even find contextuals that warranted a higher rating.

This really drives home that radar estimated winds are universes away from gospel when determining intensity.

Most ef5 tornadoes or tornadoes that did ef5 contextuals didn’t have the most impressive velocities on radar. I think it’s best if people don’t freak out about how bad the damage could be until actual ground truth comes out.

 

[OHWX97]

So, it seems the worst damage Norman could find for the Hollister tornado was "high end EF-1".

So just what made the radar go nuts like that? Feedback?

The tornado could've very well been significant, but there's no way of knowing due to the lack of damage indicators.

 

[OHWX97]

Westmoreland tornado was rated EF3.

 

[jiharris0220]

The tornado could've very well been significant, but there's no way of knowing due to the lack of damage indicators.

Maybe, but according to this video of the damage path, that doesn’t seem to be the case at all. I think the red flag was the CC not even being over 10,000ft.

 

[warneagle]

Confirmed tornado basically on top of Spearman

 

[Tomcats Forever!]

[QUOTE="jiharris0220, post: 116234, member: 1717"

This really drives home that radar estimated winds are universes away from gospel when determining intensity.

[/QUOTE]

Especially the closer you get to the radar it seems.

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[andyhb]

So, it seems the worst damage Norman could find for the Hollister tornado was "high end EF-1".

So just what made the radar go nuts like that? Feedback?

They were not able to access much of the path due to flooding and/or lack of safe roads. I wouldn't be drawing too many conclusions about "radar estimated windspeeds" with this one. It was in a very rural area with few structures or even trees to hit.

 

[TH2002]

Confirmed tornado basically on top of Spearman

Hard to tell due to the (go figure) horrendous radar coverage in that area, but a bit of a CC drop is visible on the Dodge City radar.

 

[TH2002]

Spearman warning downgraded to radar indicated, but still looks highly suspicious. Also, the SVR-warned cell south of Gove City, KS is probably gonna need a TOR soon

edit: now warned

 

[OHWX97]

Maybe, but according to this video of the damage path, that doesn’t seem to be the case at all. I think the red flag was the CC not even being over 10,000ft.

Thanks for sharing this video, I haven't seen it yet! The damage definitely seems to support the high-end EF1 rating. This was a very large, multivortex tornado over a rural area though. I do question if those structures were exposed to the strongest winds, or not.

 

[jiharris0220]

They were not able to access much of the path due to flooding and/or lack of safe roads. I wouldn't be drawing too many conclusions about "radar estimated windspeeds" with this one. It was in a very rural area with few structures or even trees to hit.

Not sure if this is shade towards me considering the quotations.

But I strongly stand by what I said in that this tornado simply wasn’t as strong at ground level despite what the radar displayed, which of course was hundreds of meters up anyways.

As the video I linked above shows, there’s simply nothing that even remotely hints at significant damage, even the few trees in the path of the tornado got off easy all things considered.

 

[andyhb]

Not sure if this is shade towards me considering the quotations.

But I strongly stand by what I said in that this tornado simply wasn’t as strong at ground level despite what the radar displayed, which of course was hundreds of meters up anyways.

As the video I linked above shows, there’s simply nothing that even remotely hints at significant damage, even the few trees in the path of the tornado got off easy all things considered.

Is this from the main tornado or is this from the anticyclonic tornado?