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A rare and horrible home video of the EF4 hit Kaiyuan, China in 7/3/2019. I guess this video of direct hit might be one of the best videos outside US. From surveys, the tornado was weakened to EF2-3 due to the influence of elevated buildings before hit this apartment. Luckily everyone in the apartment survived but one person was killed in the village in the close shot.

This is my favorite video of the Kaiyuan tornado, and I remember watching it over and over right after this happened. Absolutely terrifying.

I wish there was more video of the 2016 Yancheng EF4. The one brief, poor quality clip I can find seems to show a very dark Joplin-like wedge, shrouded by rain and debris.
 

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This is my favorite video of the Kaiyuan tornado, and I remember watching it over and over right after this happened. Absolutely terrifying.

I wish there was more video of the 2016 Yancheng EF4. The one brief, poor quality clip I can find seems to show a very dark Joplin-like wedge, shrouded by rain and debris.
This should explain everything

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This should explain everything

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Funning EF4 was actually something refers to a 'mesoscale accident' in my idea. The condition that day was too common for a 4-km wide violent tornado. Also, there was only 2 tornadoes that day and both tornadoes were generated by one isolated supercell. That supercell was actually the only obvious storm that day. Another is Sheyang EF3+ tornado with compared narrow path east of Funning:
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Another weird thing is about the tornadoes in Bangladesh. Actually I think the best meteorological settings for tornadoes on Earth happened in Banglasesh:
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I guess there might be F4s or even F5s in Bangladesh before. The death toll of Bangladesh tornadoes could be horrible. There was an account that no one in a 400-people village survived after a tornado in 1964. But the DIs support high intensity is lacked there. Also, Bangladesh tornadoes mysteriously disappeared in the era of worldwide social media. The last significant tornado event there happened on March 2013. I could not understand what caused this since significant or even violent tornadoes still happened in India and Nepal in recent years.
 
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Funning EF4 was actually something refers to a 'mesoscale accident' in my idea. The condition that day was too common for a 4-km wide violent tornado. Also, there was only 2 tornadoes that day and both tornadoes were generated by one isolated supercell. That supercell was actually the only obvious storm that day. Another is Sheyang EF3+ tornado with compared narrow path east of Funning:
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Another weird thing is about the tornadoes in Bangladesh. Actually I think the best meteorological settings for tornadoes on Earth happened in Banglasesh:
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I guess there might be F4s or even F5s in Bangladesh before. The death toll of Bangladesh tornadoes could be horrible. There was an account that no one in a 400-people village survived after a tornado in 1964. But the DIs support high intensity is lacked there. Also, Bangladesh tornadoes mysteriously disappeared in the era of worldwide social media. The last significant tornado event there happened on March 2013. I could not understand what caused this since significant or even violent tornadoes still happened in India and Nepal in recent years.
Giving a Bangladesh tornado an F5 rating is pretty much impossible due to the very poor construction in the region unless if it hits some reinforced concrete structure or something. I have not heard any Bangladesh tornado doing that.
 

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Giving a Bangladesh tornado an F5 rating is pretty much impossible due to the very poor construction in the region unless if it hits some reinforced concrete structure or something. I have not heard any Bangladesh tornado doing that.
Actually one of the tornado in 1996-05-13 did hit some concrete building and was rated F4:
https://scholarcommons.usf.edu/fmhi_pub/76/
But the intensity of other tornadoes that day or other events still remained unknown.
 

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The highest death toll caused by tornado in single building worldwide is probably the event happened in Huanggang, China on 4/16/1977. At that evening, a QLCS tornado swept hills region near Huanggang. The tornado lifted shrub-sized bamboo with root and threw a 180kg machine to 30 meters away. The F3+ tornado passed a hall in Zongluzui High School. The roof of the hall was lifted and thrown apart and the wall collapsed. Unluckily, 400 students took part in the regional sports meeting at that school that day. When the tornado came, they were watching movie at the hall. 48 students were killed at scene and 38 others died in hospital. This tornado is still a mysterious event. Though there were some article reports, no damage figures has been found yet.
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Funning EF4 was actually something refers to a 'mesoscale accident' in my idea. The condition that day was too common for a 4-km wide violent tornado. Also, there was only 2 tornadoes that day and both tornadoes were generated by one isolated supercell. That supercell was actually the only obvious storm that day. Another is Sheyang EF3+ tornado with compared narrow path east of Funning:
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Another weird thing is about the tornadoes in Bangladesh. Actually I think the best meteorological settings for tornadoes on Earth happened in Banglasesh:
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I guess there might be F4s or even F5s in Bangladesh before. The death toll of Bangladesh tornadoes could be horrible. There was an account that no one in a 400-people village survived after a tornado in 1964. But the DIs support high intensity is lacked there. Also, Bangladesh tornadoes mysteriously disappeared in the era of worldwide social media. The last significant tornado event there happened on March 2013. I could not understand what caused this since significant or even violent tornadoes still happened in India and Nepal in recent years.
I beg to differ, that day was a disaster waiting to happen. Here in the USA, we never see updraft profiles so tall and so vertical. There's so much stretching there, which makes the updraft extremely efficient at utilizing wind shear at its disposal. The wind shear present, given that reanalysis sounding, is easily enough to support a violent tornado to form.
 

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The highest death toll caused by tornado in single building is probably the event happened in Huanggang, China on 4/16/1977. At that evening, a QLCS tornado swept hills region near Huanggang. The tornado lifted shrub-sized bamboo with root and threw a 180kg machine to 30 meters away. The F3+ tornado passed a hall in Zongluzui High School. The roof of the hall was lifted and thrown apart and the wall collapsed. Unluckily, 400 students took part in the regional sports meeting at that school that day. When the tornado came, they were watching movie at the hall. 48 students were killed at scene and 38 others died in hospital. This tornado is still a mysterious event. Though there were some article reports, no damage figures has been found yet.
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I remember reading somewhere that around 85 people were killed by the Goliad Tornado of 1902 when it hit the church with absolutely no warning, no roar, no visibility, it just blew up all of a sudden.
 

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I remember reading somewhere that around 85 people were killed by the Goliad Tornado of 1902 when it hit the church with absolutely no warning, no roar, no visibility, it just blew up all of a sudden.
The report said about 50 were killed in the church in Goliad tornado. The highest death toll (>70)caused by tornado in single building happened in Cooper Pants factory during Gainesville tornado. I guess there might be some more tragic events in South Asia but actually data there is little.
 

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The report said about 50 were killed in the church in Goliad tornado. The highest death toll (>70)caused by tornado in single building happened in Cooper Pants factory during Gainesville tornado. I guess there might be some more tragic events in South Asia but actually data there is little.
Which Gainesville Tornado, the 1903 or 1936 one? Both of them hit factories.
 

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What ever happened to Bangladeshi and Eastern India tornadoes? Historically, it’s one of the most prone regions for violent, deadly, supercell spawned tornadoes. Looking back through history though, it seems like there has been a sharp decline in Bangladeshi tornado disasters in recent years.
This is something even harder to understand than the disappearance of significant tornadoes in Michigan.
 

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Nobody here ever talks about the Havana, Cuba Tornado of January 27th, 2019, the first violent tornado of 2019, and the first tornado of such magnitude recorded in Cuba's History in a long, LONG time. The tornado razed several masonry-constructed homes, built of concrete and extremely durable, down to their first floor as it moved through densely populated suburbs of the town. However, the environment that the parent supercell was located in just didn't suggest or support the potential for a violent (EF4+) tornado at all.

The tornado appeared as an ominous stovepipe tornado for most of its lifespan, as seen in this colorized image of a security camera

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The tornado razed the upper floors of several apartment buildings, which allowed most people to take cover, explaining the relatively low death toll from the storm. Some of them were completely collapsed by the storm.

The tornado was given 185 mph

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The environment below is what has me at a loss, although it definitely supports tornado potential, the kinematics and thermodynamics just aren't strong enough to support a tornado of EF4 intensity. The environment depicted below was consistent throughout the warm sector, and as the parent supercell came into closer contact with NEXRAD radar, it failed to produce another instance of strong rotation after the Havana Tornado had dissipated.

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The highest death toll caused by tornado in single building worldwide is probably the event happened in Huanggang, China on 4/16/1977. At that evening, a QLCS tornado swept hills region near Huanggang. The tornado lifted shrub-sized bamboo with root and threw a 180kg machine to 30 meters away. The F3+ tornado passed a hall in Zongluzui High School. The roof of the hall was lifted and thrown apart and the wall collapsed. Unluckily, 400 students took part in the regional sports meeting at that school that day. When the tornado came, they were watching movie at the hall. 48 students were killed at scene and 38 others died in hospital. This tornado is still a mysterious event. Though there were some article reports, no damage figures has been found yet.
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Speaking of high tornadic death totals have you heard of the April 11, 1878 Stameeu China tornado. It was mentioned in the April 1878 monthly weather review and reportedly killed 10,000 people. I’m not sure if the death total is accurate though.
 

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Speaking of high tornadic death totals have you heard of the April 11, 1878 Stameeu China tornado. It was mentioned in the April 1878 monthly weather review and reportedly killed 10,000 people. I’m not sure if the death total is accurate though.
Figures of that event in Canton, China on 04/11/1878:
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Which Gainesville Tornado, the 1903 or 1936 one? Both of them hit factories.
The 1903 tornado struck the Gainesville Cotton Mill, where many of the workers were children. The damage was mostly to the top few floors, some of which partially collapsed. A number of children were blown out of the building altogether. To make matters worse, the top of a huge standpipe was carried some distance by the tornado and thrown just in front of the mill - directly on top of a crowd of people who thought they'd managed to escape. The numbers are fuzzy, but somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 people were killed in/around the mill.

At least 70 people were killed in the Cooper Pants Factory in the 1936 tornado. The factory largely collapsed and then burst into flames, trapping many people inside. The fire department had a hard time reaching it, and by the time they did, the fire was so hot that no one could do much of anything. It's likely that the true toll was higher, but for reasons that are hopefully obvious, it wasn't possible to identify many of the victims.

I included some photos of the cotton mill and the pants factory in my article on the outbreak. They're down toward the bottom:
 

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Speaking of high tornadic death totals have you heard of the April 11, 1878 Stameeu China tornado. It was mentioned in the April 1878 monthly weather review and reportedly killed 10,000 people. I’m not sure if the death total is accurate though.
From the figures, I guess there was probably a tornado of F3+ intensity. But in Chinese account, the death toll is highly varied. Some said it killed 10000+ people while some said over a thousand were killed or injuried.
 

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From the figures, I guess there was probably a tornado of F3+ intensity. But in Chinese account, the death toll is highly varied. Some said it killed 10000+ people while some said over a thousand were killed or injuried.
That lower death total would still make it one of the deadliest tornadoes in world history.
 
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