Severe WX Historic April 27-May 1 2024 Midwest Storms

[TornadoFan]

Looks like something is coming together north of Devol

 

[Clancy]

Will probably drop imminently.

 

[TH2002]

The storms' proximity to the radar site may have made these tornadoes look somewhat more violent than their actual intensities. Radar returns are rules, not laws. But with that said, I would not expect radar returns like these to be associated with weak tornadoes.

 

[Clancy]

The storms' proximity to the radar site may have made these tornadoes look somewhat more violent than their actual intensities. Radar returns are rules, not laws. But with that said, I would not expect radar returns like these to be associated with weak tornadoes.

Especially considering the movement of that first tornado, whatever damage it did was likely quite intense.

 

[tornado examiner]

This things is gonna try to spawn another monster real soon

 

[Fred Gossage]

The storms' proximity to the radar site may have made these tornadoes look somewhat more violent than their actual intensities. Radar returns are rules, not laws. But with that said, I would not expect radar returns like these to be associated with weak tornadoes.

If you were talking about a reflectivity debris ball or a CC debris signature, I would agree, but in the case of the velocity signatures, that close proximity to the radar means those higher velocity speeds are much closer to ground level.

 

[Maxis_s]

The storms' proximity to the radar site may have made these tornadoes look somewhat more violent than their actual intensities. Radar returns are rules, not laws. But with that said, I would not expect radar returns like these to be associated with weak tornadoes.

141kts of VROT is not something to ignore. Again, only El Reno 2013 beats that. There's no way this isn't at the very least an EF4, at least in terms of intensity.
That's ~324mph of GTG shear at only about 500-600 feet above ground. That is absurd.

 

[TornadoFan]

Devol couplet not as impressive now.

 

[TH2002]

If you were talking about a reflectivity debris ball or a CC debris signature, I would agree, but in the case of the velocity signatures, that close proximity to the radar means those higher velocity speeds are much closer to ground level.

Didn't know that, thanks.

 

[Muwx]

This things is gonna try to spawn another monster real soon

I’m not sure sure. Outflow dominate on the western half of the storm, eastern half looks like it is starting to pick up forward speed to the south.

 

[Maxis_s]

My god...

 

[Fred Gossage]

Didn't know that, thanks.

It's the simple function of beam height because of the curvature of the earth. The closer you are to the radar site, the closer to ground level you're looking.

 

[Clancy]

Watching the Devol cell continue to spin.

 

[TornadoFan]

 

[OHWX97]

Something might be trying to spin up further east; over Comanche.

 

[TornadoFan]

Tornado reported near Devol.

 

[TH2002]

141kts of VROT is not something to ignore. Again, only El Reno 2013 beats that. There's no way this isn't at the very least an EF4, at least in terms of intensity.
That's ~324mph of GTG shear at only about 500-600 feet above ground. That is absurd.

Ground truth is just as, if not more important than radar returns if we're talking about determining tornado intensity.
Definitely some insane couplets though. Haven't seen ones this intense since... eh... a few days ago. Very reminiscent of Elkhorn if you ask me.

 

[Clancy]

Well hopefully these things are done for the night, because good lord.

 

[TornadoFan]

Tornado warning for the Comanche storm. Good grief.

 

[atrainguy]