• Welcome to TalkWeather!
    We see you lurking around TalkWeather! Take the extra step and join us today to view attachments, see less ads and maybe even join the discussion.
    CLICK TO JOIN TALKWEATHER

Archive 2017-2019 Political Thread

Status
Not open for further replies.
G

gangstonc

Member
Messages
2,809
Reaction score
299
Location
Meridianville
www-m.cnn.com

Trump makes 13 false claims in Cabinet meeting

President Donald Trump uttered a rapid series of false claims, at least 13 in all, during his Cabinet meeting on Tuesday. He made another claim for which there is no public evidence, and he offered positive words about an ally's accusation for which there is no public evidence.
www-m.cnn.com www-m.cnn.com

Our liar in chief is consistent if nothing else.
 
G

gangstonc

Member
Messages
2,809
Reaction score
299
Location
Meridianville
M

Matt

Member
Messages
1,632
Reaction score
123
Location
Alabaster
Evan said:
Here's the definition in case you're wondering, Matt:

rac·ist /ˈrāsəst/

noun: racist; plural noun: racists 1. a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another. "the comments have led to her being called a racist" synonyms: racial bigot, racialist, xenophobe,
Click to expand...

Trump did none of that. He pointed out their anti American views, their socialist and communist tendencies. He's attempting to paint them as the face of the democrat party. And he is succeeding. He never once mentioned race, skin color or religion. Nothing racist about that.
 
M

Matt

Member
Messages
1,632
Reaction score
123
Location
Alabaster
gangstonc said:
“Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came.”

Telling immigrants to “go home” or “ back to their country” is a pretty standard racist statement.

Since three of the four he was talking about actually came from the US...

Again, do you not care that his tweet was factually incorrect?

Fact Sheet: Immigrants' Employment Rights under Federal Anti-Discrimination Laws

Immigrants are protected from employment discrimination by laws enforced by the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC). This pamphlet answers questions often asked by people who think that they have suffered discrimination in employment. It describes what the law covers, how to file a...
www.eeoc.gov www.eeoc.gov

Why don’t you read this to see that Trump fits exactly what the govt calls a racist.

“Harassment Based on National Origin
Ethnic slurs and other verbal or physical conduct because of nationality are illegal if they are severe or pervasive and create an intimidating, hostile or offensive working environment, interfere with work performance, or negatively affect job opportunities. Examples of potentially unlawful conduct include insults, taunting, or ethnic epithets, such as making fun of a person's foreign accent or comments like, "Go back to where you came from, " whether made by supervisors or by co-workers.”
Click to expand...

Have you ever seen the sign on Interstate 65 on the W. S. Newell property ? "America, Love it or leave it ! Been there for years. Is that racist ?
 
M

Matt

Member
Messages
1,632
Reaction score
123
Location
Alabaster
gangstonc said:
Just following what Trump’s EEOC says. It’s textbook. Have you ever told an immigrant to “go back to their country.”? I sure haven’t. Our president has.

You haven’t addressed what you think about Trump’s tweets being factually incorrect.
Click to expand...

Telling someone to go back to their ancestral home is not racist. If you despise this country why stay ?
 
maroonedinhsv

maroonedinhsv

Member
Messages
622
Reaction score
470
Location
Harvest, AL
Matt said:
Trump did none of that. He pointed out their anti American views, their socialist and communist tendencies. He's attempting to paint them as the face of the democrat party. And he is succeeding. He never once mentioned race, skin color or religion. Nothing racist about that.
Click to expand...
Matt, the following quote does not mention race, skin color, or religion. Do you believe it is racist?
No person shall be registered as an elector of this State or be allowed to vote in any election herein, unless he be able to read and write any section of the constitution of the State of Oklahoma; but no person who was, on January 1, 1866, or at any time prior thereto, entitled to vote under any form of government, or who at that time resided in some foreign nation, and no lineal descendant of such person, shall be denied the right to register and vote because of his inability to so read and write sections of such constitution. Precinct election inspectors having in charge the registration of electors shall enforce the provisions of this section at the time of registration, provided registration be required. Should registration be dispensed with, the provisions of this section shall be enforced by the precinct election officer when electors apply for ballots to vote.
Click to expand...
 
E

Evan

Member
Messages
2,265
Reaction score
1,396
Location
McCalla, AL
Matt said:
Telling someone to go back to their ancestral home is not racist. If you despise this country why stay ?
Click to expand...

You should ask Donald Trump this very question. Because he spent the entire 2016 campaign talking about how terrible America is, and how we are no longer great. Shouldn't he go back to Scotland or Germany if that's what he believes?

The flaw with your logic, in general, is that criticism of America is an age-old tradition, and is considered a VERY American thing to do. But, even that ignores that Trump wasn't criticizing these four women for anything they had recently said -- sure all of them have at one point or time critiqued the United States (particularly Omar and Tblaib), but most of their criticism has been reserved for specific people and things.

Do you not recall Trump saying that America assassinates people too, and that we're not so innocent/great? Although Trump took it to an extreme, just about every single politician running does so on a platform that our country has problems, and that those problems need to be fixed. Trump did this exact action repeatedly throughout his campaign.

What's the difference between Trump doing so, and the "squad" doing so, other than the fact that Trump is a white Boomer? That's literally the only difference. Non-whites, millennials, etc aren't allowed to critisize things. Only white Boomers are allowed to. It's rather ironic, considering the vast majority of the problems we face as a nation, are the fault of white Boomers. They screwed up the very country they are claiming that Trump is rescuing.

If we're going to deport people for their political opinions, then I think we should start with Boomers. Send them all to China and México. If they can't hack it there, though! They shouldn't have voted for the scumbag politicians that ruined our country. Shouldn't they have to take responsibility for their mess? I'm sorry, Matt, but you have to go back to wherever you're from.
 
E

Evan

Member
Messages
2,265
Reaction score
1,396
Location
McCalla, AL
Just want to point out, Osama Bin Laden = Baby Boomer.

I think I rest my case. We need an executive order preventing Baby Boomers from entering our country, and we need to put the rest in camps. For our safety and theirs.
 
M

Matt

Member
Messages
1,632
Reaction score
123
Location
Alabaster
Evan said:
You should ask Donald Trump this very question. Because he spent the entire 2016 campaign talking about how terrible America is, and how we are no longer great. Shouldn't he go back to Scotland or Germany if that's what he believes?

The flaw with your logic, in general, is that criticism of America is an age-old tradition, and is considered a VERY American thing to do. But, even that ignores that Trump wasn't criticizing these four women for anything they had recently said -- sure all of them have at one point or time critiqued the United States (particularly Omar and Tblaib), but most of their criticism has been reserved for specific people and things.

Do you not recall Trump saying that America assassinates people too, and that we're not so innocent/great? Although Trump took it to an extreme, just about every single politician running does so on a platform that our country has problems, and that those problems need to be fixed. Trump did this exact action repeatedly throughout his campaign.

What's the difference between Trump doing so, and the "squad" doing so, other than the fact that Trump is a white Boomer? That's literally the only difference. Non-whites, millennials, etc aren't allowed to critisize things. Only white Boomers are allowed to. It's rather ironic, considering the vast majority of the problems we face as a nation, are the fault of white Boomers. They screwed up the very country they are claiming that Trump is rescuing.

If we're going to deport people for their political opinions, then I think we should start with Boomers. Send them all to China and México. If they can't hack it there, though! They shouldn't have voted for the scumbag politicians that ruined our country. Shouldn't they have to take responsibility for their mess? I'm sorry, Matt, but you have to go back to wherever you're from.
Click to expand...

He was not suggesting they leave because of their political opinions. He suggested that if they hate America and it such a horrible place to live, then leave. I'll be more than Happy to go to Ballaghadereen if this country goes as these whack jobs want to take it.
 
E

Evan

Member
Messages
2,265
Reaction score
1,396
Location
McCalla, AL
Matt said:
He was not suggesting they leave because of their political opinions. He suggested that if they hate America and it such a horrible place to live, then leave. I'll be more than Happy to go to Ballaghadereen if this country goes as these whack jobs want to take it.
Click to expand...

I refuse to believe anyone is actually this obtuse. Trump claimed they "hate America" BECAUSE of their political opinions. This is not difficult.
 
M

Matt

Member
Messages
1,632
Reaction score
123
Location
Alabaster
Evan said:
I refuse to believe anyone is actually this obtuse. Trump claimed they "hate America" BECAUSE of their political opinions. This is not difficult.
Click to expand...

Have you heard any one of them say something positive about the country ? Their opinions, or a majority of them do show a certain hate and disdain for the country Evan. I just saw the Tweet differently than you. You want to hate everything Trump does or says. You have a built in bias that blurs you vision.
 
maroonedinhsv

maroonedinhsv

Member
Messages
622
Reaction score
470
Location
Harvest, AL
Matt said:
Have you heard any one of them say something positive about the country ? Their opinions, or a majority of them do show a certain hate and disdain for the country Evan. I just saw the Tweet differently than you. You want to hate everything Trump does or says. You have a built in bias that blurs you vision.
Click to expand...
Are you asserting that you do not have a bias?
 
M

Matt

Member
Messages
1,632
Reaction score
123
Location
Alabaster
maroonedinhsv said:
You said:

So, it is not "apples and oranges". Can a statement be racist without mentioning race, skin color or religion?
Click to expand...


I think the two are different. Trump is not denying anyone their civil rights. He pointed out their hate for the country and called them out. He is making them the face of the democrat party. There was nothing racist in his tweet. And the point everyone missed is to go to your ancestral home, make it better and then return home and tell us how to do it. Nothing wrong with that.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top