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5/5-5-6 2026 severe threat

TheSuckZone said:
I always try to make sure something has not already been posted before I submit but I think the lagging of the site like last night may have contributed to things being repeated. I know there was something that had not been mentioned last night and by the time the site loaded and I submitted it there had been like 3 mentions of it.
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Sharpy said:
We are all lifelong learners.

Whether we realize it or not, we are constantly learning about something new, if it’s pertaining to our careers or something we’re passionate about. I view redundant posts (if they are done in a reasonable amount of time, such as 2 minutes apart from each other) as a way of confirming what I am seeing it.

Weather happens at such a fast rate that redundant posting when not kept up to speed can slow the flow of conversations and staying live. I don’t want to discourage anyone from engaging on here as long at it is relevant and appropriate, but that’s just my two cents from what I’ve gathered on the topic.
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The repeat posting is just something that's pretty much bound to happen - in and of itself, I'm not really bothered by it. I do genuinely think the site connectivity problems last night were probably intensifying the issue, however. Things got really rough during the height of the Brookhaven-Monticello storm, at one point I sent a post that took like 5 minutes to deliver, and a bunch of other posts popped up at the same time.
 
Kds86z said:
@Clancy all the trees? Was bass field and Tyler town worse on radar? I forget
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I don't remember Bassfield's radar presentation off the bat, though iirc its couplet and G2G was more intense than what we saw last night, but I could be wrong about that. However, damage-wise I've mostly seen partial collapses and mobile homes destroyed. In the case of Bassfield, you had homes and buildings swept away completely.
 
Clancy said:
I don't remember Bassfield's radar presentation off the bat, though iirc its couplet and G2G was more intense than what we saw last night, but I could be wrong about that. However, damage-wise I've mostly seen partial collapses and mobile homes destroyed. In the case of Bassfield, you had homes and buildings swept away completely.
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Thanks. Yeah I tracked bassfield live before my time here. Tyler town ef4 was here for.

regardless, a memorable event.
 
DanLarsen34 said:
I will say, at first glance, that the ratings are much more in-line with what the background environment would have suggested beforehand (STP of 2-4 suggests strong tornadoes with some possibility of an EF-3 or greater). Not saying you can’t get violent tornadoes with lower STP environments like this, but that’s more common with early-late season events where instability is lower, but insane kinematics overcome/compensate for it.

That being said, this may be one of the bigger gaps between what the radar suggested was occurring versus what may have transpired that I can recall in a while. Not only did both signatures support a higher-end violent tornado (Vrot, depth/height of CC drop, etc…), the insane debris fallout after the first one was also highly suggestive of one. You almost never see debris fallout like that for such a prolonged period time outside of high-end, violent tornadoes.
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To be fair, in regards to the gaps in radar, we were looking at the storm a lot higher up. I remember having to flip flop a bunch between two different radars during the time of the storm. Not sure how high we were looking up at the storm during the Garden City tornado though.
 
Kds86z said:
After last night, I am no longer going to even half believe scanner relayed reports . Those reports or such get passed along to YouTube Ryan hall or Max velocity and there is just utter confusion and missinformed. I won’t even
repeat what locals were saying on Facebook. I had people calling me names on X for trying to share with them their own governor said 0 fatalities. Ugh. Mentally exhausted. A chaser literally confronted the one popular YouTuber saying, I did NOT say body bags.
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I don’t know why people started taking them as gospel when scanner reports are explicitly meant to get ES into the area, accurate or not. During the Uvalde shooting in 2022 it was reported during the event that nobody was in there with the gunman, which we all know now to have been incredibly wrong. That was when I learnt not to trust everything said on dispatch. Then again there was so much else wrong with the police response to that event but it’s happened many other times.
 
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Central Ohio Wx said:
I don’t know why people started taking them as gospel when scanner reports are explicitly meant to get ES into the area, accurate or not. During the Uvalde shooting in 2022 it was reported during the event that nobody was in there with the gunman, which we all know now to have been incredibly wrong. That was when I learnt not to trust everything said on dispatch. Then again there was so much else wrong with the police response to that event but it’s happened many other times.
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Absolutely unrelated to the subject but I still will never forgive the departments for that day in particular. Total embarrassment 101 from them.

This happens every single year with a major area being impacted. Reported and explicit calls for fatalities which turn out to be false. X has been the main root of that too. Just gotta take these reports with a grain of salt and wait for official confirmation the day after. Reports of or after tend to be highly overzealous such as the "town is gone" by certain chasers or just people calling for chasers requesting bodybags which was false. Vince Waelti (i have opinions on him but for another day...) was subjected to this "bodybag" thing when it was false and reported or misheard by Ryan Hall's team. He never called for this yet was reported to have. I think this event could really give people a lesson to not trust all of these reports and stop taking what you misheard as the main interpretation if you're NOT sure you heard it right.
 
Sawmaster said:
I'm gonna stick my nose in here at the risk of it getting punched :rolleyes:

Whether or not any of us likes or dislikes anything or anyone's post, WE DON't RUN THIS BOARD. We're guests and should behave like good guests. If you want something changed contact a Mod or the Owner's and speak with them about it. Now during these 'live event' threads there's occasionally a need to inform a newbie or someone who is breaking site rules about how we behave here- that much is fine but no more. And that should be done civilly and respectfully.

As I understand things, on 'live event' threads we're supposed to avoid "Me too posts" and just use the "like button" instead which conveys the same thought without wasting the bandwidth and slowing the site down. And nobody needs to post what has already been posted.

Last night I saw several instances where 3 out of 4 new posts in a row spoke of the same new thing like "TOR warned now". Folks this ain't a race to be the first person to post something; please take a moment to read what's already here before you hit "post". And it ain't just last night- this has been going on awhile.

As to reposting stuff from elsewhere you should ask yourself whether that is going to add to the value or just waste bandwidth and disturb the sensitive among us. If you don't like what someone else posts use the "frown button" and maybe speak with that person off-board. None of the rest of us want to be involved with someone else's arguments (well at least we shouldn't want to be involved in clogging up the board).

The reason I am here is because a whole lot of the members here are very good analyzing the data, reading the radars, and offering deeper insight than you see in most places. I learn things from this and I appreciate it, but it's rare that I can add anything to the discussion so I just sit back and watch. I use the 'like buttons" to do my speaking more often than not. And if I do post during a "live event" unless it's critically important I wait till things slow down before posting. We also have some curmudgeons and hypocrites here who I'd like to muzzle sometimes but back to my first paragraph- it's not my board to control.They have as much a right speak as I do but not any more than me either. I looked for a place like Talkweather for years. Every other place I'd been online had faults and flaws and sensationalism or were "bickering boards" so bad I almost quit the game. I still think this is the best. Congrats to those who work to keep it that way and shame on those who don't.

I'm done with this subject. Punch away.
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I agree with this, but with many users active on the forum with these events, it is tough to check if people have posted this stuff with recent site issues and etc etc. As for private stuff that should be dealt with, this has been my approach to different things outside of TW. DMs is the best way to resolve a situation, and throwing petty jabs at each other is schoolboy stuff. Disagreements are a bound thing to happen on this forum.

Regarding your point that "it's rare I can add anything to the discussion so I sit back and watch", i wish that more had this mindset. Stop trying to look for something to add to the discussion if you really can't, you're still technically apart of the discussion within watching it. There's nothing wrong because eventually you may have learned enough to have input on things. There's some users from time to time on here that just type two word sentences, and then moan they can't add anything to the discussion. Maybe, sit back until something is said that you think you can add a bit of input on.


Really good post.
 
WeathermanLeprechaun said:
I agree with this, but with many users active on the forum with these events, it is tough to check if people have posted this stuff with recent site issues and etc etc. As for private stuff that should be dealt with, this has been my approach to different things outside of TW. DMs is the best way to resolve a situation, and throwing petty jabs at each other is schoolboy stuff. Disagreements are a bound thing to happen on this forum.

Regarding your point that "it's rare I can add anything to the discussion so I sit back and watch", i wish that more had this mindset. Stop trying to look for something to add to the discussion if you really can't, you're still technically apart of the discussion within watching it. There's nothing wrong because eventually you may have learned enough to have input on things. There's some users from time to time on here that just type two word sentences, and then moan they can't add anything to the discussion. Maybe, sit back until something is said that you think you can add a bit of input on.


Really good post.
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These conversations also just have to happen sometimes because this forum is community moderated. Mods of other forums would just unilaterally delete the disruptive content and ban offending users, but those forums are also much less diverse and active. There's opportunities to learn and grow after every major event, both as forecasters and as a community. It's basically like a post-event debrief.
 
Sawmaster said:
I'm gonna stick my nose in here at the risk of it getting punched :rolleyes:

Whether or not any of us likes or dislikes anything or anyone's post, WE DON't RUN THIS BOARD. We're guests and should behave like good guests. If you want something changed contact a Mod or the Owner's and speak with them about it. Now during these 'live event' threads there's occasionally a need to inform a newbie or someone who is breaking site rules about how we behave here- that much is fine but no more. And that should be done civilly and respectfully.

As I understand things, on 'live event' threads we're supposed to avoid "Me too posts" and just use the "like button" instead which conveys the same thought without wasting the bandwidth and slowing the site down. And nobody needs to post what has already been posted.

Last night I saw several instances where 3 out of 4 new posts in a row spoke of the same new thing like "TOR warned now". Folks this ain't a race to be the first person to post something; please take a moment to read what's already here before you hit "post". And it ain't just last night- this has been going on awhile.

As to reposting stuff from elsewhere you should ask yourself whether that is going to add to the value or just waste bandwidth and disturb the sensitive among us. If you don't like what someone else posts use the "frown button" and maybe speak with that person off-board. None of the rest of us want to be involved with someone else's arguments (well at least we shouldn't want to be involved in clogging up the board).

The reason I am here is because a whole lot of the members here are very good analyzing the data, reading the radars, and offering deeper insight than you see in most places. I learn things from this and I appreciate it, but it's rare that I can add anything to the discussion so I just sit back and watch. I use the 'like buttons" to do my speaking more often than not. And if I do post during a "live event" unless it's critically important I wait till things slow down before posting. We also have some curmudgeons and hypocrites here who I'd like to muzzle sometimes but back to my first paragraph- it's not my board to control.They have as much a right speak as I do but not any more than me either. I looked for a place like Talkweather for years. Every other place I'd been online had faults and flaws and sensationalism or were "bickering boards" so bad I almost quit the game. I still think this is the best. Congrats to those who work to keep it that way and shame on those who don't.

I'm done with this subject. Punch away.
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Regarding this with repeating the same thing by multiple people . You can partly blame the tech issues. This was a problem before yes but during the heat of tornado action now it’s even worse and you can’t even delete your post quickly if it happens while server is going whack , so F it I won’t if that’s happening, too stressful. Along with having to click a box to post.
 
DanLarsen34 said:
On the forest damage itself, I’ll be curious to see if Tony Lyza chimes in at some point in the next couple of days. He did a survey of the April 13, 2019 tornadoes that occurred right next to the Columbus, MS radar site. Those tornadoes were insanely violent and would have warranted a high-end EF-4 rating based off of the forest damage. I would be curious to see how that compares to these two. I’ve got the photos on my phone somewhere, but I am having trouble finding it right now.
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I've read from the publication Tony and them did where that particular tornado could have easily been rated EF5 as well. That was stated at the end of the analysis published in the AMS Monthly Weather Review.
en.wikipedia.org

Tornado outbreak of April 13–15, 2019 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
 
Look at MS beating Tornado Alley in May with longest tracked tornado. LOL!
 
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