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  1. Arcadia

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    Schiff should take the role of Scarlet O'Hara. He plays the perfect damsel in distress. Such drama.
     
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    Is anyone remembering the SOTU speech now? Talking about it? Nope. Because it was just a speech. You know what we're talking about now? The fact that Trump thinks Porter (his former aide) is innocent of spousal abuse.

    From the Daily Wire: Trump defended Porter, stating, “it was very sad when we heard about it, and certainly, he’s very sad now. As you probably know, he says he’s innocent. And I think you have to remember that. He said very strongly yesterday that he’s innocent, so you’ll have to talk to him about that. But we absolutely wish him well. Did a very good job while he was at the White House.”

    <insert blank stare>

    Trump has a history of supporting and defending men who have been accused of abusing women. His record is not good. And it's not a case of Trump wanting to take the side of innocent until proven guilty. That would mean he stands for something. He doesn't. He's forever casting judgment without facts, deeming others guilty with nothing but an accusation. Donald Trump's foundation is built on sand, constantly shifting with the wind. No, Donald Trump doesn't stand on any principles. He stands on convenience. Always. It doesn't matter what it is. Whether he is talking about the deficit or amnesty. I know that talk radio is constantly beating the drum of how happy Trump supporters should be they elected Trump. "He fights" they say. "He's not afraid of fighting back. Finally!" they say. That's true. He does fight. I can see the appeal in that. But his fights are at their core based on what is convenient politically for Trump. It's all about winning for him. For. HIM. It's not about you. It's never been about you. Maybe three more years of his brand of leadership will open the eyes of those who think Donald J Trump cares about them and is doing this all for his fellow man. But he can't even muster support for one woman with a black eye. Incredible that he leaves no room for the possibility that these women were indeed abused by Porter. Where are their well wishes? Is he the least bit regrettable that he kept a possible wife-beater on his staff? But then again, he thinks it's perfectly fine to grab women by their unmentionables. But, eh...it's just locker room talk. It means nothing. Right? The fact that we have a man, residing over the country, acting as president of the United States who is constantly defending men accused of abusing women...I would say, yes, it matters. It freaking matters. It mattered then and matters now. But hey, he fights! Right? Yes, he does. So don't be surprised when Trump supporters wake up one morning with a black eye. He has no loyalties to anyone but to himself.
     
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    And don’t forget that the UCLA basketball players who stole sunglasses got harsher words from Trump and the Central Park five.

    Does anybody care to take a stab at why he didn’t enact the bipartisan Russian sanctions?
     
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    Congress voted 517-5 for sanctions against Russia several months ago for meddling in the election and Trump still won't enact them. Why is that?
     
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    Don't know but I have my ideas.

    Personally, I'm tired of hearing people who voted for Obama complain about the Russians.
     
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    I'm more concerned about the ballooning deficit than friggin Russia. Congressional Republicans ran on a platform of conservative policies but passed this load of dung called a "budget" with no debate or hesitation (thank goodness for Rand Paul who actually stands for something). This is embarrassingly bad. We can't keep doing these trillion dollar yearly deficits.

    It's amazing Trump didn't run his business into the ground the way he is budgeting with his administration.
     
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    Would've voted Rand Paul for pres in a heartbeat
     
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    Didn’t he run his business into bankruptcy three or four times? Why does his financial policy surprise you? He’s lived his life with debt.

    And sadly, Russia is POtENTIALLY more of a problem than the deficit. You cannot have another world power infiltrating the highest offices of your govt.
     
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    White House: Background check on Porter was ongoing.
    FBI: Nope.
    White House: We learned last week.
    FBI: Nope.
    White House: He was fired 40 minutes after we learned.
    Reporters: Except for when you invited him to defend himself.
    https://t.co/2fyTEkxcwe

    Saw this on Twitter.
     
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    Definitely a one man job right there.
     
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    Trump's personal lawyer admits to paying off porn star Stormy Daniels a sum of $130000. She said she is ready to tell her story after the president’s lawyer reportedly breached a nondisclosure agreement preventing her from speaking publicly about her alleged affair with President Trump.
     
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    But I thought they said there was no NDA?
     
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    It’s not a one man job, but part of being president is ultimate responsibility
     
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    What exactly are common sense gun laws? That term is so often thrown around by politicians. celebrities, and folk on Twitter. I find it more akin to "hey, accept these laws without careful debate and questioning." It's a buzzword...and those don't ever translate well over to policy. That "gun show loophole" that now needs to be fixed by "common sense gun control" was a result OF GUN CONTROL LAWS. The 1968 Gun Control Act made it to where private exchanges of firearms are not subject to the same record keeping as commercial. The 1994 "Assault Weapons" ban had no detectable effect on crime. The Justice Department's own study suggested that any effects of the law were "too small to be statistically measured." But I'll tell you what it did. It created a market for steeply inflated firearms, often other guns equipped with very similar magazine capacities. It is the same thing OVER AND OVER with gun laws by Congress. So, yes, let's evoke their help yet again.

    In many cases, there are warning signs...social media posts of guns, posing with guns, and violent intent. There are comments, behavior, etc. The warning signs are there. Whether it be Virginia Tech, Sandy Hook, San Bernadino, Orlando, Sutherland Springs, or now Parkland, Florida. We can't deflect responsibility toward those in Congress...I don't trust them to be the first line of defense in my community. The ethic of "see something, say something" is a vital part of living in a law abiding community. We've become too accustomed to minding our own business....we can't assume menacing pictures or quips about mass murder by a kid is a joke. It is our duty to care for one another...we can't consider troubled people in our society as someone else's problem. We can't trust Congress to protect us from them all.

    When we push off intervention to someone else, we end up with grotesque crimes. Dead children in a school. Larry Nassar and his hundreds of victims of sexual assault. These COULD have been prevented had someone stepped up and we all have a responsibility.
     
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    What was the FBI supposed to do? You can’t exactly jail somebody for being a weirdo.

    Common sense gun laws are those that stop things like this from happening. You do realize we are basically the only developed country that has this problem?

    I think it needs to be much more difficult to buy a gun. There needs to be a limit to the number of magazines and ammo you can buy at a time. Prices of ammo need to be much higher. That would help a little.
     
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    Um, he made a flat-out threat to shoot up a school. We had something similar back in 2014 here at UA and the person was ARRESTED AND PROSECUTED. And, it happened to be over YouTube as well. FBI dropped the ball here.

    What criteria would you make getting a gun harder? Raise age limit? There are some funky laws on that. An FFL dealer cannot sell a handgun to anyone under 21 but a non FFL dealer can to anyone over 18 per federal law. When it comes to long guns, federal law is 18 on those purchases (I believe).

    We already have criminal background screenings but that system has failed...see Sutherland Springs. Mental screenings? What about mental illnesses that manifest long after the purchase? And how big of a scope? Is anxiety considered a mental illness worthy of stripping someone the right of owning a gun? Number of magazines...what about 3D printing of those? Or black market purchases? What about ammo reloads? How are you going to stop people from reloading their own ammo?

    It isn't as easy as saying "we need to make it harder for bad people to get guns." That is like elementary school stuff.
     
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    I didn’t see that he had issued s threat. My apologies.

    Age limits should be raised. Longer waiting periods. Required, extensive training for any gun purchase. Much higher gun and anno prices.
     

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