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So it’s never really been about “the collusion “ we’re going to get him on campaign finance we’re just going to get him period. But Republicans and Democrats be forewarned whether it be a leftist or right wing or centrist the presidency is now achievable to an outsider that doesn’t have to go about politics the usual way. Heck Bernie Sanders almost got the Dem nomination despite the machine. So yes the machine is on the defensive and is showing it’s nasty side. What’s great is the left and the Democrats would have never gone so over the top if it hadn’t been for Trump he really has made a dent in history. Argue that he broke a glass ceiling more real than what Hillary was to break a real divide between the ruling class and the people in the working class that actually make this country and do the work. But major change and revolution often take on an unpredictable path. If we could see 5-10 years down the road this country is unrecognizable. People have lost their minds as it is beyond TDS people are over dosed on drugs, child sex trafficking, corruption and greed of all sorts, laziness, businesses needing to hire people but no one willing to do real work, transmultiplegenderisms, 77 year old billionaire on viagra busted in strip mall Asian spa , people caught in gang crossfire, nobody cares when kids shoot each other on streets but only if cop shoots one, msm and social media fake outrage totally misjudging and misrepresenting, staging fake hate crimes, MoMo, we thought we all agreed that at least life began at birth now we don’t even agree on that! Columbus now is equal to Hitler view of history! So no I don’t see the machine keeping the wheels from coming off this crazy bus.

This entire investigation and harassment of Trump is an effort to discourage any future outsider from running for president. The swamp will only allow one of their own to run!
 

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I think the Dems are potentially too broad a scope. I’m quite sure trump is corrupt in every way imaginable, but the public has grown fatigued with all of the news. It’s become normalized. They need to find a better way.


This isn't oversight, it's overkill. The Dems are attempting to discredit and damage anyone associated to Trump or his 2016 campaign. They are trying to destroy his 2020 campaign! And it will backfire on them big time!
 

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This isn't oversight, it's overkill. The Dems are attempting to discredit and damage anyone associated to Trump or his 2016 campaign. They are trying to destroy his 2020 campaign! And it will backfire on them big time!
This is a possibility. Also a possibility is that Trump is part of one of the most corrupt businesses of all time. The number of indictments and guilty pleas/verdicts says he deserves a lot of investigation. The question is how much?

I think the insurance investigation is warranted, the hush money investigation is warranted, the Russia investigation is warranted, the security clearance investigation is warranted.
 

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This is a possibility. Also a possibility is that Trump is part of one of the most corrupt businesses of all time. The number of indictments and guilty pleas/verdicts says he deserves a lot of investigation. The question is how much?

I think the insurance investigation is warranted, the hush money investigation is warranted, the Russia investigation is warranted, the security clearance investigation is warranted.

It's also possible pigs may one day fly! NDA's aren't hush money and not illegal. Done all the time. I hope the 81 people and entities just ignore Nadler and Cummings.
 
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Painting Ilhan Omar's remarks as antisemitic is quite cute. Is it her hijab? It is her skin color? Is it because she is Muslim?

It IS all about the Benjamins. That's the point of lobbying! You buy off politicians. The right does it. The left does it. Israel does it, and so does Saudi Arabia. Everyone does it! It's not that complicated. More money = more politicians in your pocket.

It's too bad the pro-Israel snowflakes got their feelings hurt by the truth. Perhaps people are finally waking up to the fact that Israel violates international law with no repercussions.

And before anyone tries the missiles into Israel retort, spare me. I'll tear into the Palestinian terrorists as well if it will make you feel better.

But back to the point, Omar's remarks are not antisemitic. And both sides ripping into her is comical. It's almost like the more fake outraged they get, the more AIPAC money they get. A real political feeding fish to seals game.
 

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Painting Ilhan Omar's remarks as antisemitic is quite cute. Is it her hijab? It is her skin color? Is it because she is Muslim?

It IS all about the Benjamins. That's the point of lobbying! You buy off politicians. The right does it. The left does it. Israel does it, and so does Saudi Arabia. Everyone does it! It's not that complicated. More money = more politicians in your pocket.

It's too bad the pro-Israel snowflakes got their feelings hurt by the truth. Perhaps people are finally waking up to the fact that Israel violates international law with no repercussions.

And before anyone tries the missiles into Israel retort, spare me. I'll tear into the Palestinian terrorists as well if it will make you feel better.

But back to the point, Omar's remarks are not antisemitic. And both sides ripping into her is comical. It's almost like the more fake outraged they get, the more AIPAC money they get. A real political feeding fish to seals game.
When you say that Jews have magical hypnotic powers to control other people, you’re an anti-Semite. When you say Jews control other people through money, you’re an anti-Semite. When you say Jews have conspired to force you to apologize for saying anti-Semitic things, you’re an anti-Semite.

Bottom line. Ilhan Omar has done all of those things. She’s an anal wart on America.
 
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Uh yeah, when you take land away, bulldoze occupied homes to make "settlements", and oppress a group of people, forcing them into utter poverty with no real recourse from the rest of the world, that's some damn good PR right there. Israel has broken numerous international laws and nothing.

Got any other evidence, because that's a bit weak.
 

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Uh yeah, when you take land away, bulldoze occupied homes to make "settlements", and oppress a group of people, forcing them into utter poverty with no real recourse from the rest of the world, that's some damn good PR right there. Israel has broken numerous international laws and nothing.

Got any other evidence, because that's a bit weak.
Typical whatabouism. If you wanna discuss the legitimacy of Israel’s actions, that’s fine. But don’t try to justify someone’s racism and anti-Semitism because in your view the “bad people break numerous international laws.”

Gtfo with that rhetoric. Ilhan is an anti-Semite and I think it says a lot about the Left, yourself as well, that you can’t condemn hateful comments. Sort of reminds me of when the Left got all bent out of shape when Trump wouldn’t condemn David Duke outright.

I’m not up to date with the “international laws Israel broke.” Feel free to back up your comments with links to something.
 
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No, you first. You said she was an anti-semite. You posted a NYPost op-ed quote and a tweet that amounts to jack squat. That's a nice little logical extension you made, but it amounts to nothing. See, she was criticizing the Israeli government. She said nothing about Jews.

So, go back to your drawing board and GTFO with that argument.
 

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Typical whatabouism. If you wanna discuss the legitimacy of Israel’s actions, that’s fine. But don’t try to justify someone’s racism and anti-Semitism because in your view the “bad people break numerous international laws.”

Gtfo with that rhetoric. Ilhan is an anti-Semite and I think it says a lot about the Left, yourself as well, that you can’t condemn hateful comments. Sort of reminds me of when the Left got all bent out of shape when Trump wouldn’t condemn David Duke outright.

I’m not up to date with the “international laws Israel broke.” Feel free to back up your comments with links to something.
Just going off the quote posted here, she did say Israel, not Jews, so talking about what Israel did is not a whataboutism.

There is nothing hateful in that quote. I’m not saying there aren’t others, but that one isn’t bad at all.
 

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*Google's Ben Shapiro's latest tweets*

"Oh that explains the discussion here"
 

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I’ve made my point crystal clear. We can condemn hate from all angles and still maintain a legitimate discussion. I guess I’m a pro-Israel snowflake!
 

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No, Kory, you are just not educated on the subject, and that is your prerogative. You would just rather repeat what you have heard from biased sources. I mean, if we are judging people's character now...
Still waiting for any info on violation of international laws. I asked for information since I’m not educated. I got a lot of hand waving in response. Feel free to expand on the notion of your previous claims.
 
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Still waiting for any info on violation of international laws. I asked for information since I’m not educated. I got a lot of hand waving in response. Feel free to expand on the notion of your previous claims.
It does not work that way. You gave me nothing, you get nothing.

I've got them all lined up - your move.
 
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