gangstonc
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Why do you keep talking about Hillary? Trump is president! Care to comment on the Butina news?
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Archive 2017-2019 Political Thread
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I don't understand what a proper investigation entails. What would anyone investigate? She used a private server for government business. She admitted to it. Are we just going to fish for anything that detracts from current events? If it's so important, why doesn't the Trump admin, justice department and Congress do something more? They have the power to do that... Or maybe they haven't done it because they know it's completely pointless.
Meanwhile we have real crimes, guilty pleas, substantially shadier things going on and all of that in your minds eye seems to be no big deal compared to a failed presidential candidate two years ago. That blows my mind. Not even in respect to the Mueller investigation either, just looking at Trump and his history is enough for me to think corruption... I don't want government in our business as much as I don't want business in our government. Both entities are a huge foul.
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Because she is not being held accountable for her criminal activity. Don't you believe in equal justice for all.
No.
maroonedinhsv
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Ummm... I don’t think you know what “withholding judgment” means.
gangstonc
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I do. If she was president, she should be impeached over it. But she’s not. The trump stuff is far more important.
That’s very telling that you don’t want to comment. Normally you have some backwards way of trying to dismiss the facts.
That is total B.S. Her communication being hacked by bad actors does not warrant an investigation ? Whether she won or lost is irrelevant. She let our countries secrets be stolen. This Trump stuff is minute compared to what she did. I don't know enough about her to make a comment.
The investigation was handled by people who were texting love notes back and forth and talking about how horrible Trump was, etc., etc., etc. Trust, there are real crimes and for some reason no one wants to hold her accountable.
gangstonc
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It was investigated. Members of her team were granted immunity so they could tell on her freely. You have had too much kool aid.
It’s a very difficult crime to prosecute. Very hard to prove it was done intentionally.
They were guilty as hell too and should not have been granted immunity. Strozk and McCabe were Hillary supporters and she was not going to be properly investigated. Pull your head out of your rear man!
It is not a difficult law to prosecute. Did she violate laws regarding national Security ? Yes. Did she obstruct justice ? Yes. And there are more. Mueller's job was to investigate, not make prosecutorial decisions.
gangstonc
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Wait, Mueller was supposed to investigate Hillary!?
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"A shutdown falls on the President's lack of leadership. He can't even control his party and get people together in a room. A shutdown means the president is weak."
Donald J. Trump - 2013
Donald J. Trump - 2013
gangstonc
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...rince-despite-pleas-from-senate-idUSKBN1OB01C
Trump is a sick, deranged, and disgusting man.
Trump is a sick, deranged, and disgusting man.
He is supposed to investigate "Russian collusion".
Roosevelt and Truman stood by Joseph Stalin during WWll. Were they sick and disgusting as well ?
A TIME FOR TRUTH
MARK LEVIN·TUESDAY, DECEMBER 11, 2018
1. A sitting president CANNOT be indicted. That’s official DOJ policy since 1973. Neither the Special Counsel nor the SDNY nor Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein can defy that 45-year-old policy.
2. SDNY is NOT expert in campaign finance violations and neither is the Clinton appointed district judge. They rarely handle campaign finance cases. The left-wing media and politicians are regurgitating what the prosecutors have merely filed in their own self-serving brief. The media and others intentionally refuse to look at the actual rules and context. They refuse to even question what these prosecutors have thrown together.
3. The actual campaign rules and context do NOT include Non-Disclosure Agreements (NDAs) or infinite other contracts, payments, arrangements, acts of a private nature, etc. as campaign contributions. This is normal human behavior and was never intended to be regulated or reported. SDNY is dead wrong. And these private payments can be made in any manner or any amount. Again, they’re private payments involving private matters. To underscore, there’s no reporting requirement because they’re not campaign payments made with or without campaign funds.
4. SDNY inclusion of these charges in the Cohen plea deal was a sleazy political and PR attack against the president by an office coordinating with Mueller and aligned with Comey. SDNY knew Cohen would plead. It therefore knew its absurd allegations would not be tested in any courtroom — district, circuit or Supreme Court. If they were tested, SDNY would be hammered like a nail. But it knew the left-wing media and politicians would use the mere over-the-top allegations from its office, with absolutely nothing more, to claim the president committed campaign felonies. No due process. No assumption of innocence. They knew they couldn’t charge a sitting president. Thus, they convict the president in the press, not only an extreme act of professional misconduct but a violation of the very purpose of the DOJ memos banning the indictment of a sitting president while effectively indicting him in the court of public opinion, and watch as untold numbers of media personalities and former members of the SDNY, among others, use this dirty work to predict or demand the president’s indictment and/or impeachment.
5. As for impeachment, NDAs involving wholly private matters occurring before the president was even a candidate and completely unrelated to his office cannot legitimately trigger the constitution’s impeachment clause. Indeed, they could not be more irrelevant. The history of the clause and its “high crimes and misdemeanors” language make it crystal clear that the office and the president’s duties are not affected in any conceivable way by these earlier private contracts. Of course, Jerrold Nadler, another NYC radical, could not care less. He’s more than thrilled to be an executioner in this French Revolution redux. The Constitution be damned. Meanwhile, he and the others wave around the Constitution as if they’re defending it against a tyrant. It is they who are the tyrants.
MARK LEVIN·TUESDAY, DECEMBER 11, 2018
1. A sitting president CANNOT be indicted. That’s official DOJ policy since 1973. Neither the Special Counsel nor the SDNY nor Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein can defy that 45-year-old policy.
2. SDNY is NOT expert in campaign finance violations and neither is the Clinton appointed district judge. They rarely handle campaign finance cases. The left-wing media and politicians are regurgitating what the prosecutors have merely filed in their own self-serving brief. The media and others intentionally refuse to look at the actual rules and context. They refuse to even question what these prosecutors have thrown together.
3. The actual campaign rules and context do NOT include Non-Disclosure Agreements (NDAs) or infinite other contracts, payments, arrangements, acts of a private nature, etc. as campaign contributions. This is normal human behavior and was never intended to be regulated or reported. SDNY is dead wrong. And these private payments can be made in any manner or any amount. Again, they’re private payments involving private matters. To underscore, there’s no reporting requirement because they’re not campaign payments made with or without campaign funds.
4. SDNY inclusion of these charges in the Cohen plea deal was a sleazy political and PR attack against the president by an office coordinating with Mueller and aligned with Comey. SDNY knew Cohen would plead. It therefore knew its absurd allegations would not be tested in any courtroom — district, circuit or Supreme Court. If they were tested, SDNY would be hammered like a nail. But it knew the left-wing media and politicians would use the mere over-the-top allegations from its office, with absolutely nothing more, to claim the president committed campaign felonies. No due process. No assumption of innocence. They knew they couldn’t charge a sitting president. Thus, they convict the president in the press, not only an extreme act of professional misconduct but a violation of the very purpose of the DOJ memos banning the indictment of a sitting president while effectively indicting him in the court of public opinion, and watch as untold numbers of media personalities and former members of the SDNY, among others, use this dirty work to predict or demand the president’s indictment and/or impeachment.
5. As for impeachment, NDAs involving wholly private matters occurring before the president was even a candidate and completely unrelated to his office cannot legitimately trigger the constitution’s impeachment clause. Indeed, they could not be more irrelevant. The history of the clause and its “high crimes and misdemeanors” language make it crystal clear that the office and the president’s duties are not affected in any conceivable way by these earlier private contracts. Of course, Jerrold Nadler, another NYC radical, could not care less. He’s more than thrilled to be an executioner in this French Revolution redux. The Constitution be damned. Meanwhile, he and the others wave around the Constitution as if they’re defending it against a tyrant. It is they who are the tyrants.
Kory
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Yes they were. Roosevelt was a racist POS.
Kory, but why did they hang in there with him ?
Kory
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Fight evil in WW2. But enabling him also led to the deaths of tens of millions of innocent civilians.
gangstonc
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This isn’t WWII.
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