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Kory

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Excuse me, disgraceful.

When he admitted he used the position of being head of the federal law enforcement agency to make an "assumed" presidential winner seem legitimate. We aren't a banana republic. When the law enforcement places political ambition over principle and when partisan polarization overtakes truth and justice, the man leading the charge is an absolute disgrace.

If you can somehow defend this, then we know where you stand. I'm 100% behind my statement. He is a disgrace to federal law enforcement folks who work diligently to preserve the rule of law. Do I think Comey should go to jail? No. Do I think he should ever come within 10 feet of a law enforcement agency ever again? No. We have rule of law in this country that cannot be tainted by political ambitions. Comey did that. That is disgraceful.
 

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If you can somehow defend this, then we know where you stand. I'm 100% behind my statement. He is a disgrace to federal law enforcement folks who work diligently to preserve the rule of law. Do I think Comey should go to jail? No. Do I think he should ever come within 10 feet of a law enforcement agency ever again? No. We have rule of law in this country that cannot be tainted by political ambitions. Comey did that. That is disgraceful.
I don't think he had bad intentions when he did this. I do think it was incorrect that he did this, and I would not have done what he did.

I think it is important to say he was trying not to make her an illegitimate president, not make her a legitimate one.
 

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People are upset because someone that they needed to be perfect appears to be a flawed human in retrospect. We all have the benefit of hindsight giving us information and facts that weren't apparent when Comey had to make the decisions he made.

Do I agree with all of the decisions that Comey made or believe he is above reproach? No, I don't. I also think he does have a bit of an ego.

For some reason he really grates on people's nerves. He reminds me of the kid in school that was a teacher's pet and Eagle Scout. Always appeared to be upright and perfect. The type of person that would always tell the substitute teacher you were supposed to have a pop quiz that day.

Everyone likes to think they would have made a better decision or not let the election have any impact on their decision making. As human beings we all have bias even if we don't admit it. We also are influenced by things that we deny as having an influence on us.

People like to believe our justice system and our law enforcement agencies are relatively free from bias and political motivation. In reality, every single major investigation and case has been influenced by politics from its inception to conclusion. To deny this is to deny that we are human. I think a lot of the anger people have towards Comey is because the flawed nature of our justice system and political system suddenly become very clear -- even the Director of the FBI isn't immune. It is very bothersome, and it is easier to blame Comey or hold him individually responsible than allowing for the realization that perfect and unbiased justice is inherently impossible. We are all flawed people - - even those of us in seemingly prestigious and respected institutions.

It's fair to critisize Comey. He did make mistakes I don't, however, believe his actions or behavior in 2016/2017 were disgraceful or unbecoming of his position. His actions were what you'd expect from an imperfect human in a challenging situation.

I do, however, have an issue with some of the snarky comments in his book and the publicity tour for his book. I think it is a mistake, and it is something even a flawed human being should be able to see after some deep self-introspection. But, it is also more evidence that Comey isn't an android free of bias and emotion. He was fired in humiliating fashion, and has watched an institution he loves be attacked and ridiculed because they dare question the activities of the President and dare treat him as less than a King. I'm sure it is a very bitter pill to swallow.

I don't blame people for being upset with Comey or attacking his behavior. It's galling we're in this situation to begin with. It's sad that Trump has ripped away the curtain and we see that even those at a well-respected monolithic institution put on their pants one leg at a time. It upsets me as well because I've always believed in the FBI fairy tale as well. But, it's a bit like spending a considerable amount of time around former members of the military and hearing their opinions about our armed forces. It leaves you sith the sinking feeling that everything isn't quite the "heroes fighting for our freedom" image that we all desperately want to believe.

Ultimately, this is yet again another example of wrestling with a pig. Anyone that goes up against Trump gets dirty in the process. I've yet to see anyone immune. From Gold Star parents and spouses to the Director of the FBI. The sooner we realize it's because we're all human and flawed the better. Because Trump is an especially repulsive and revolting example of the human condition, and if anything it should make us realize how abnormal he is - - not that others aren't idealistically perfect.
 

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If you can somehow defend this, then we know where you stand. I'm 100% behind my statement. He is a disgrace to federal law enforcement folks who work diligently to preserve the rule of law. Do I think Comey should go to jail? No. Do I think he should ever come within 10 feet of a law enforcement agency ever again? No. We have rule of law in this country that cannot be tainted by political ambitions. Comey did that. That is disgraceful.

Every law, rule, court case, investigation and process at every level of government is tainted and influenced by politics. That's a reality whether we like it or not. All we can hope is that it is minimized as much as possible. It's the same reason Pastors and Priests sin yet can go up there on Sunday and minister to the masses.
 

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The fact that we have Biff (George McFly's bully) as our President has pretty much ripped any fairy tale illusions from our eyes of those who hold important titles and offices. Though, I get your point. But truly, I expect, even from Trump to behave a certain way. And I expect to be disappointed every single day because he's never going to behave in a manner becoming of the President of the United States. Having said that, I fully expect the next President to behave as such, with dignity and integrity. I'm probably setting myself up for more disappointment. But I will always expect people who are entrusted with upholding the laws of this land and our constitution to do so with integrity and grace, and as by the book as humanly possible. Including FBI Directors. I have major, major issues with Comey, but my issues with Comey came long before Trump was elected, which is why I told my husband he should be fired day one and this was said before inauguration. Sadly, that did not happen, and because Trump waited to fire him, he opened this can of worms. Yes, I have major, major issues with the way Trump handled the firing. Does he handle anything well? No. He's a walking talking disaster. But I know lots of people will disagree with the fact I think Comey should have been gone long before he was let go. And that's fine. My opinions mean zilch. But I'm ever so glad we have a book now about what Comey thinks about Trump's tiny hands and that he assumes the white half-moon shapes under his eyes are from tanning goggles. Whatever would we do without that bit of knowledge.

Comey doesn't remind me of the Eagle Scout or the nerd type who was the teacher's pet. Am I the only one who actually liked the nerd types in school? I still like the nerd types. They're my favorite people, actually. Anyhoo, Comey most definitely does not remind me of an Eagle Scout. He does remind me of someone who wanted to be one though, and failed, and his ego doesn't know how to handle it.
 
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I have no idea. It's one thing to disagree with someone's views in a respectful manner, and then there's filth like this. I hate to see anybody lose their job, but she has it coming.
I don't think she should be fired over this vile comment. It falls squarely within her rights to voice her hateful, disgusting opinion as unfortunate as that may be.

Now, I do hope she gets reprimanded for tweeting out the phone line for a 24-hour crisis hotline and encouraging people to tie it up needlessly. You don't get to jam services of people who actually need help. Much like you can't call 911 and babble claiming it was free speech.
 

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Comey is such an idiot. During an interview yesterday on NBC, he admitted on camera that he has a bias against Trump because he was fired by him. That probably will jeopardize the testimony he gave to the Mueller investigation a month after his firing. Mueller must be cringing because Comey is a witness with inside knowledge. Yeah, everyone may have inklings of bias, but to publicly admit it will cast doubt over his testimony...

What is even more confusing is how this guy ever climbed the latter within the intelligence community. Makes me really question the integrity of the FBI even further.
 

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I don't think she should be fired over this vile comment. It falls squarely within her rights to voice her hateful, disgusting opinion as unfortunate as that may be.

Now, I do hope she gets reprimanded for tweeting out the phone line for a 24-hour crisis hotline and encouraging people to tie it up needlessly. You don't get to jam services of people who actually need help. Much like you can't call 911 and babble claiming it was free speech.

Good points. Maybe this shouldn't be grounds for termination,but it's obvious she's not fit to be a professor. I looked up her Wikipedia article and, needless to say, she's an interesting character.
 

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This couldn't be truer:


To me the memo Comey leaked is the smartest and best move he made. It could “save” the country.


Trump in the Comey memo on February 8th, 2017- “Putin told me Russia has some of the most beautiful hookers in the world.”

Trump on twitter 2/7/2017- “I don’t know Putin.”
 

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