Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by ghost, Feb 7, 2018.
Bama fans need to enjoy this man and all he has done for UA. What a legend.
She makes a good point. Could have left the political stuff out of it, but otherwise I agree with her.
Jalen was asked a question and he answered from the heart. Would you rather him have liked getting benched? He's a competitor and he's unhappy. Now maybe as he looks back he might wish that he worded things a bit different(or maybe not), but Jalen Hurts has been nothing but class and a leader for the past 2 years. He lost his job on the biggest stage possible. He may or may not have reasons to be a bit disgruntled but to see the way people have turned on him in the last 24 hours is mindblowing and uncalled for.
I'm going to do my absolute best to be there for the final home game of the year in whatever season it is that Saban announces its time for him to hang up the straw hat for the final time (Hopefully against Auburn and not our yearly FCS snoozer). His final game at Bryant-Denny stadium will be an absolutely historic and one of the most emotional moments in the history of sports. I hope he can stay with us for another 12 years but health issues can spring up out of nowhere at that age. I'm cherishing every game he's our coach.
No one here is saying Jalen is classless, but I think we're getting a different view of Jalen...frustration we haven't seen because he hasn't had this level of competition. It seems he believes something that was "rightfully" his, the starting QB position, was taken away and no one has gotten his opinion on things. His parents...the same view. Jalen has had ample time to seize the moment and, again, establish himself as the leader of the team after embarrassingly losing it on the biggest stage. Don't forget, Tua was out all spring. But I'm just curious...what was Jalen trying to accomplish with that interview? It sure wasn't trying to "win the team" as Saban has said will be needed for the starting QB role. And as I said, I'm not even sure he is telling THE truth. Not "my truth" as Jalen said. There is only THE truth.
I can't imagine a false narrative being pushed onto Jalen, or anyone, off the field 24/7. But, again, it was mostly his family's doing that got that ball rolling. Saban hasn't helped though, with that comment at media day.
I've said my piece on this. I don't think this kind of discord is what we need.
I'll add one more thing.....overshadowed by Hurts' interview is Tua's. I caught it on my way into work this morning and he sounds much more mature than your typical college sophomore. His theme was the team throughout the interview.
That's the big thing. Throwing everyone under the bus and complaining is about the worst thing you can possibly do to "win the team". All that happens after that is everyone starts talking about you behind your back how once it goes wrong you're gonna throw them under the bus. Nobody wants to be with somebody who makes being the leader about THEM and not about THE TEAM. Nobody else has shown any sort of discontent within the locker room at all. Jalen is the only one doing this, so I'm really, really doubtful that there's some bigger behind the scenes issue that Jalen is trying to paint. If the locker room actually was out of control you'd see players all over rising up to support him. But its been over 48 hours now and there hasn't been a peep from anyone else..
From what I've heard/read, Tua has already won the team over. The only controversy related to QBs is why Tua hasn't been publically named yet as the starter.
As Stephen Smith said, I was at the natty as well and I agree with him 100%. Not sure what was worse: Jalen's performance, the God awful security to get in thanks to Trump, or the incessant barking by grown men whilst trying to relieve myself in the bathroom.
Him overthrowing Ridley by a nautical mile may have been what put us in a position to win. Who knows if Tua comes in if he connected on that touchdown before halftime.
Leaked info out of today's scrimmage is saying Tua is definitely in command and its not even really close. Jalen definitely looking like a backup but Saban is going to milk this as a "competition" for at least another week if not longer.
But all in all, the battle is over and Tua will be starting against Louisville barring an injury. Saban is saying that what happened today won't determine who wins the battle at the end but the general consensus is that's just coachspeak to try to keep the media off his heels.
Edit: Leaked stats say Tua threw 4 touchdowns while Jalen was an interception machine with 3 picks. Not sure what the full stat lines for either are though. This is just what I'm hearing through those who were there.
Stats from a scrimmage can be a funny thing. As someone who has played on a football team (granted, it was high school), scrimmage is when you want to "force" those risky throws. You want to try and fit it in the tight spaces. But the fact he had no TDs to complement those INTs is no good for him. I also read OL and DL are downright nasty. ILB core will be thin, but the first team is very experienced. Don't expect much of a drop off with the secondary...at least that is the way it is looking. We have some elite players in development...Savion Smith, Patrick Surtain, Diondre Thompson, Xavier McKinney and Josh Jobe.
Biggest Question...is development of depth at linebacker. Still getting flashbacks to Stidham looking like Deshaun Watson against us. If only we had an offense that game that could score...or hell get a first down. But even when we were on our 3rd and 4th string LBs...we still managed to keep it within 2 TDs.
I saw some very choppy highlights that showed Tua dropping dimes to Jerry Jeudy on multiple occasions while there wasn't a whole lot from Jalen other than a short out-route to Hentges. The ILB depth could be a concern, but this is setting up to be more like the 2016 defense where the defensive line and OLBs wreck havoc and the ILBs just have to clean up, so that may help protect them from being exposed to injury. Last year Rashaan Evans, Mack Wilson, and SDH were having to do the dirty work all year long, which is a bit unusual for a Saban defense and exposed them to perhaps more injury than normal.
The only real QB competition at this point is between Mac Jones and Hurts for the backup spot, IMO.
Hurts needs to switch to H-Back or bulk up and switch to TE. Mac Jones would be a more effective backup IMHO. Hurts has skills with his legs so he could have a future as a receiving TE or H-Back but his days as a QB are done. He somehow keeps regressing instead of improving as a thrower.
Posting this yet again, because why not. The amount of times I have watched this play is disgusting, but it never gets old. 2nd and 26 will forever live as the best play to end a national championship.
Of course the rise of social media has kind of saturated this play all over the internet so it doesn't quite have the mystical feel of some of the games of the early 2000s, but I have a feeling in 10-15 years this game will be looked upon on a similar level as Miami-Ohio State and USC-Texas as one of the most iconic college football games of all time. Regardless of how Tua's career here shakes out, that one half of football has already cemented his status as a legend in Tuscaloosa.
Some unconfirmed reports that Tua was 54/58 during the scrimmage. Not verified and of course a lot of these may have come during situational drills, but regardless that is just ridiculous if true.
What a dump of a program.