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Does it not disturb you as to how this was recorded and released ? You are disturbed by what was said but not by how it was collected and released? Foolishness to the N'th degree.

Why would I be concerned about someone who works for me, in a building I paid, being recorded talking about things that greatly impact me that they tried to hide?

Did you have a problem with the DNC hacking? Why was that collected and released in an acceptable fashion but not this recording?

Interesting to see that you are a big fan of Paul Ryan now? I thought it was OK to destroy him when he refused to campaign with Trump?
 

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Roger Ailes just happens to die after all these stories came out? Some have said the police found emails on his laptop to the New York Times and WaPo. Trump had him killed because he was the leaker?

#TrumpBodyCount
 
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Why would I be concerned about someone who works for me, in a building I paid, being recorded talking about things that greatly impact me that they tried to hide?

Did you have a problem with the DNC hacking? Why was that collected and released in an acceptable fashion but not this recording?

Interesting to see that you are a big fan of Paul Ryan now? I thought it was OK to destroy him when he refused to campaign with Trump?


Who did the recording and why ? Who released the recording and why ?

The dems and their lax security problems is their problem not mine.

Paul Ryan is an asshole and part of the problem, not the solution.
 

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A connection between Seth Rich, the DNC staffer murdered last year and Wikileaks has been established. John Podesta's emails talk of teaching the leaker(s) a lesson. Why have we not heard this in the MSM ?
 

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Roger Ailes just happens to die after all these stories came out? Some have said the police found emails on his laptop to the New York Times and WaPo. Trump had him killed because he was the leaker?

#TrumpBodyCount


Melania did it.
 

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When people link The Gateway Pundit they end up with egg on their face. Everytime.

That article quotes GotNews a site run by serial liar and grotesque human being, Charles Johnson. Why is that important? Because the facts are not important to them.

The article you linked fabricates information and purposefully removes the questions asked of Comey.

Comey was asked if the DOJ or AG had pressured him. Trump was never mentioned. Post the transcript, Matt. Although you may be desperate to make this go away lets keep our wits about us. The contention of the article and your claim is 100% false.

http://therightscoop.com/did-comey-testify-under-oath-that-no-fbi-investigation-was-influenced/

What a shock that Fake News sites run for profit by tricking Trump supporters to click is running this story as a "secret tape DESTROYS Comey." I guess CSPAN, CNN, FoxNews, and all the major networks didn't cover Comey's testimony. How many Trump supporters will believe there was a secret tape by this afternoon?
 

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When people link The Gateway Pundit they end up with egg on their face. Everytime.

That article quotes GotNews a site run by serial liar and grotesque human being, Charles Johnson. Why is that important? Because the facts are not important to them.

The article you linked fabricates information and purposefully removes the questions asked of Comey.

Comey was asked if the DOJ or AG had pressured him. Trump was never mentioned. Post the transcript, Matt. Although you may be desperate to make this go away lets keep our wits about us. The contention of the article and your claim is 100% false.

http://therightscoop.com/did-comey-testify-under-oath-that-no-fbi-investigation-was-influenced/

What a shock that Fake News sites run for profit by tricking Trump supporters to click is running this story as a "secret tape DESTROYS Comey." I guess CSPAN, CNN, FoxNews, and all the major networks didn't cover Comey's testimony. How many Trump supporters will believe there was a secret tape by this afternoon?

I saw it on another news aggregate site and it went there. I will verify the account of events.
 

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A connection between Seth Rich, the DNC staffer murdered last year and Wikileaks has been established. John Podesta's emails talk of teaching the leaker(s) a lesson. Why have we not heard this in the MSM ?

This is completely false. Sean Hannity has screamed about it several nights in a row even though it is absolutely false.

I guess you missed where the "source" recanted and said FoxNews told him to say all those things? Must have also missed where Seth Rich's family asked FoxNews and Fox DC to issue a retraction as they said their reporting is false, and there is a special place in hell for people using their son's death.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/17/media/seth-rich-family-apology-retraction-fox-news-wttg/index.html
 

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Melania did it.

Doubt it. She can't stand her husband. Has she even been to the White House for more than an hour since Trump was elected?
 

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Who did the recording and why ? Who released the recording and why ?

The dems and their lax security problems is their problem not mine.

Paul Ryan is an asshole and part of the problem, not the solution.

The GOP and their lax security problems is their problem not mine.

Paul Ryan is an obsessed with tax reform and part of the problem, not the solution.

Fixed that for you.
 

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OK, I now realize that SL has hacked Matt's account.

This is *exactly* what I've been thinking since this morning. The posting of obviously fake or untrue sources, the "but, but, but a Democrat did something that was 1% similar so what's the issue," the absolute refusal to criticize their chosen candidate/person for any reason.

I have a lot of respect for Matt, and I consider him a friend. I'm very disappointed by this turn of events because I certainly expected him to at least be able to critique Trump's mistakes and discuss them fairly.

To me, it isn't about being right or wrong. It's about being honest and fair about both sides of an issue even if you have strong opinions and beliefs. It is about not abandoning the use of evidence and facts, and instead replacing them with fallacies... particularly ad-hominem attacks.

I'm not saying this about Matt. This is something that seems to be going on with a substantial portion of Trump supporters. As this AP article lays out, s common reaction among Trump supporters is to not believe negative stories about Trump because they don't WANT to believe them! Or, immediately saying: "yeah, but Hillary would have been worse." Or, blind loyalty to the point of saying Trump would have to gas Americans like Nazzis during the Holocaust for me to stop backing him.

https://apnews.com/780cc65e99354b00877c870acf2cdaf0

Ironically, these same people couldn't believe the blind loyalty of black voters to Obama. They guffawed at the gullibility of the "Obama gonna pay for my gas lady," but their own current logic is nearly identical if not even more flawed.

I'm disappointed with anyone that believes the solution to a fractured and partisanly divided Republic is more partisanship and an increase in animosity.
 
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This is *exactly* what I've been thinking since this morning. The posting of obviously fake or untrue sources, the "but, but, but a Democrat did something that was 1% similar so what's the issue," the absolute refusal to criticize their chosen candidate/person for any reason.

I have a lot of respect for Matt, and I consider him a friend. I'm very disappointed by this turn of events because I certainly expected him to at least be able to critique Trump's mistakes and discuss them fairly.

To me, it isn't about being right or wrong. It's about being honest and fair about both sides of an issue even if you have strong opinions and beliefs. It is about not abandoning the use of evidence and facts, and instead replacing them with fallacies... particularly ad-hominem attacks.

I'm not saying this about Matt. This is something that seems to be going on with a substantial portion of Trump supporters. As this AP article lays out, s common reaction among Trump supporters is to not believe negative stories about Trump because they don't WANT to believe them! Or, immediately saying: "yeah, but Hillary would have been worse." Or, blind loyalty to the point of saying Trump would have to gas Americans like Nazzis during the Holocaust for me to stop backing him.

https://apnews.com/780cc65e99354b00877c870acf2cdaf0

Ironically, these same people couldn't believe the blind loyalty of black voters to Obama. They guffawed at the gullibility of the "Obama gonna pay for my gas lady," but their own current logic is nearly identical if not even more flawed.

I'm disappointed with anyone that believes the solution to a fractured and partisanly divided Republic is more partisanship and an increase in animosity.


Evan, we are losing the country. I cannot understand how that is not obvious to you. Trump is far, far from perfect. Of this I am patently aware. We are being ruled by unelected judges, bureaucrats, establishment hacks from both parties that do not give a rats money maker that we are 20 trillion in debt. Or that more than half the country is on some type of assistance. Or that we are being invaded by illegal immigrants, many that wish to harm us. It's unsustainable. We are slowly, but surely moving to a Western European like socialist state. I think that is not where we want or need to go. There was no other candidate with the exception of Cruz that had a chance at reversing course. And you and others want to just sit idly by and watch it happen. I am more saddened that you as a so called conservative cannot comprehend what is taking place all around you. It boggles my mind.

Hillary Clinton should be rotting in jail right now. So should Obama. I think it will come out that Obama spied on his political opponents for political purposes. Susan Rice, Ben Rhodes, and many other of his pukes should be in jail too. But they are free as a bird because they are part of the protected "ruling" class. Our political system is corrupt to the core.
 
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